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How does something like this work in Europe with no signature on the card? When I tried to use a US card without a PIN that I hadn't yet signed, a German checke

How does something like this work in Europe with no signature on the card? When I tried to use a US card without a PIN that I hadn't yet signed, a German checker made a fuss about the missing signature. This isn't a problem in the US where no one bothers checking the signature. What about a brewery I went to this weekend where neither swipe or chip was available for their POS and the card number was manually entered?

jki275 8y ago
open up the wallet app, get the info and enter it.
- EADGBE 8y ago
  Opens up wallet app, looks for card number, doesn't see it
  - r00fus 8y ago
    I imagine this will only work for the Apple Card as it doesn't have that info on the physical card.
shoo_pl 8y ago
As they said, it only works where Apple Pay works already. And already Apple Pay works almost everywhere there is contactless terminal. Some people say you will be able to see the card number in your Wallet app, but somehow I doubt it. There is already a unique card number for every physical card you added to your walled, but you cannot see it. You can verify it on proof of purchase where last 4 digits are shown - they will differ from your physical card. As for signed/unsigned, it gets vague these days. In the past you were required by your bank agreement to sign your card. If you tried to pay with spouse card the merchant was allowed to call police and destroy the card right away. Today probably are still required to do all that with physical card, but with contactless payments its usually ignored all the time. For Apple Pay you must agree to different set of rules, those don't require you to physically sign anything as its fully digital. Same thing here.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  > As they said, it only works where Apple Pay works already. No, they showed a physical card as well.
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pisarzp 8y ago
We use chip&pin in europe. It looks like Apple card supports it and you'll be fine
- jwagenet 8y ago
  I assume they support PIN, but US issuers don't often offer PIN creation in my experience.
kraftman 8y ago
That's a Germany problem, not a Europe problem. The rest of Europe has good support for tap/pin.

jki275 8y ago

open up the wallet app, get the info and enter it.

EADGBE 8y ago
Opens up wallet app, looks for card number, doesn't see it
- r00fus 8y ago
  I imagine this will only work for the Apple Card as it doesn't have that info on the physical card.

shoo_pl 8y ago

As they said, it only works where Apple Pay works already. And already Apple Pay works almost everywhere there is contactless terminal. Some people say you will be able to see the card number in your Wallet app, but somehow I doubt it. There is already a unique card number for every physical card you added to your walled, but you cannot see it. You can verify it on proof of purchase where last 4 digits are shown - they will differ from your physical card. As for signed/unsigned, it gets vague these days. In the past you were required by your bank agreement to sign your card. If you tried to pay with spouse card the merchant was allowed to call police and destroy the card right away. Today probably are still required to do all that with physical card, but with contactless payments its usually ignored all the time. For Apple Pay you must agree to different set of rules, those don't require you to physically sign anything as its fully digital. Same thing here.

ceejayoz 8y ago
> As they said, it only works where Apple Pay works already. No, they showed a physical card as well.

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pisarzp 8y ago

We use chip&pin in europe. It looks like Apple card supports it and you'll be fine

jwagenet 8y ago
I assume they support PIN, but US issuers don't often offer PIN creation in my experience.

kraftman 8y ago

That's a Germany problem, not a Europe problem. The rest of Europe has good support for tap/pin.