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Yes, and I'm calling your view here incoherent or, at least, mistaken. It isnt valid to interpret brains this way. An "algorithm" isnt something a physical sys
by mjburgess 8y ago
Yes, and I'm calling your view here incoherent or, at least, mistaken.
It isnt valid to interpret brains this way. An "algorithm" isnt something a physical system can "run". These are observer-relative properties a system instantiates because of our use of it.
A brain is a physical system and our model of it should be a causal model in terms of its intrinsic properties that do not "disappear" when not in use.
A digital computer is an oscillating electrical field across a piece of silicon whose oscillations "correspond" to steps in an "algorithm" but only to an observer who imposes those correspondances. The program "1 + 1" on a digital computer is some state transitions of the cpu's electrical state -- it is an algorithm only when we impose an meaning on those oscillations that they do not themselves have.
There is no physical distinction in the "waterfall computer" and "digital computer" that bares on them being computers. They are both computers in exactly the same way. We havent gone to the length of a water-to-lcd display, but there's no reason we couldnt.
Water falling over a series of moveable rocks can (easily) be arranged to display the result of "1 + 1" on an LCD (eg., bucket/pixel, with water level = intensity, pipes to handle "graphics").
- msamwald 8y agoIt is your view that is incoherent. A brain and and a PC are physical systems that work based on causal physical mechanisms. Both can run algorithms, e.g., my brain and a computer can both instantiate the same algorithm, albeit in very different ways. Your argument actually seems to be based on some notion of function, or extrinsic utility, or teleology of some sort, i.e., computers are artifacts created for a specific use, while animals and their brains just exist in themselves, or something to that effect?