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OK looking Just at the number of features seems disingenuous. Cpp features tend to idk, increase the level of complexity as there tends to be quite a bit of fri

OK looking Just at the number of features seems disingenuous. Cpp features tend to idk, increase the level of complexity as there tends to be quite a bit of friction between them. Rust features definitely “work together”. This post seems to have started with a conclusion and worked backwards. Rust is such a breath of fresh air. Cargo is nuts. The community is nuts. I’ve been writing rust full time for a couple of months now and I’m not going back.

xiphias2 8y ago
The main problem with C++ are not the new features, but the old obsolate ones. It's too late to fix the language.
- adamnemecek 8y ago
  Also their development process is too slow. Like it would be impossible for me to pitch a new feature to cpp. I can imagine adding a new feature to rust (not that I would but I like that there’s the option).
  - sseagull 8y ago
    But isn't this how you end up with a 'bloated' language? Everyone has their own corner case, own little way the language can be improved. Over time, these will inevitability burden a language. Adding features becomes necessarily bureaucratic as languages mature. You can't just add/change stuff without seeing how it interacts with everyone else, which gets difficult as languages grow and become popular.
    - adamnemecek 8y ago
      That depends on how these features are added. https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md I would argue that cpp, despite being much older, is still adding features that are kinda backbreaking e.g. ranges.
  - glangdale 8y ago
    I'm appreciating the irony of you complaining that "C++ features don't work together" but also saying that the process of putting new features into C++ should be faster. :-)
    - adamnemecek 8y ago
      There's nothing ironic about that. If they had a shorter feedback loop, things could be getting fixed faster.
- xiphias2 8y ago
  I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted...I'd love to have an explanation from that person of how much diamond inheritance benefits our lives and makes it so much simpler to write maintainable code.

xiphias2 8y ago

The main problem with C++ are not the new features, but the old obsolate ones. It's too late to fix the language.

adamnemecek 8y ago
Also their development process is too slow. Like it would be impossible for me to pitch a new feature to cpp. I can imagine adding a new feature to rust (not that I would but I like that there’s the option).
- sseagull 8y ago
  But isn't this how you end up with a 'bloated' language? Everyone has their own corner case, own little way the language can be improved. Over time, these will inevitability burden a language. Adding features becomes necessarily bureaucratic as languages mature. You can't just add/change stuff without seeing how it interacts with everyone else, which gets difficult as languages grow and become popular.
  - adamnemecek 8y ago
    That depends on how these features are added. https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md I would argue that cpp, despite being much older, is still adding features that are kinda backbreaking e.g. ranges.
- glangdale 8y ago
  I'm appreciating the irony of you complaining that "C++ features don't work together" but also saying that the process of putting new features into C++ should be faster. :-)
  - adamnemecek 8y ago
    There's nothing ironic about that. If they had a shorter feedback loop, things could be getting fixed faster.
xiphias2 8y ago
I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted...I'd love to have an explanation from that person of how much diamond inheritance benefits our lives and makes it so much simpler to write maintainable code.