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That's just plain wrong. If the AK shares anything with another weapon, it's actually the M1 Garand and its bolt. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/2

That's just plain wrong. If the AK shares anything with another weapon, it's actually the M1 Garand and its bolt. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/22/no-germans-didnt-design-ak-47-kalashnikov-conspiracy-theories-refute-part-1/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/22/no-germans-di...

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ransom1538 8y ago
Haha. The StG-44 looks very similar to the AK47. What a coincidence!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 Did you read the article you posted? My favorite line from the article you posted: "This isn’t to say that the sturmgewehr StG-44 didn’t make an impression on the Soviets: It’s difficult to imagine an enemy small arm that had as much impact on Soviet small arms design as the StG-44, but put into context the weapon represents more the proving out of a pre-existing idea than the introduction of something completely new." Hilarious.
- simonh 8y ago
  They look similar, but the operating principle is significantly different. The STG-44 did have a huge impact on the Soviets, they learned a lot from it but operationally but not technically. Mikhail Kalashnikov took the concept, but the AK is not a modification of the STG-44 mechanically. That's a common misconception.
- C1sc0cat 8y ago
  A Lee Enfield Looks Similar to the Gwer 98
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  It's literally just a coincidence. The AK uses a totally different operating mechanism. The only similarity is the banana mag but that's just the reality of the cartridge dimensions. Had a little known designer ripped off the STG44 the Soviets would not have adopted it in 1947. They would have laughed at it.
  - 13of40 8y ago
    > totally different operating mechanism Not really. The bolt locks differently, but it uses a bolt carrier, gas piston, and buffer spring like an AK. That said, the easiest way to dismiss the idea that an AK47 is a copy of the STG44 is to look at some of the gas operated rifles that preceded it in the Soviet Union, like the SKS, SVT-38, and AVS-36. Except the rotating bolt, they already had all the features of the AK in the 30's, and the rotating bolt is the one thing the STG44 doesn't have. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVS-36 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVS-36
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  Your snark isn't doing your point any favors.

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ransom1538 8y ago

Haha. The StG-44 looks very similar to the AK47. What a coincidence!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 Did you read the article you posted? My favorite line from the article you posted: "This isn’t to say that the sturmgewehr StG-44 didn’t make an impression on the Soviets: It’s difficult to imagine an enemy small arm that had as much impact on Soviet small arms design as the StG-44, but put into context the weapon represents more the proving out of a pre-existing idea than the introduction of something completely new." Hilarious.

simonh 8y ago
They look similar, but the operating principle is significantly different. The STG-44 did have a huge impact on the Soviets, they learned a lot from it but operationally but not technically. Mikhail Kalashnikov took the concept, but the AK is not a modification of the STG-44 mechanically. That's a common misconception.
C1sc0cat 8y ago
A Lee Enfield Looks Similar to the Gwer 98
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
It's literally just a coincidence. The AK uses a totally different operating mechanism. The only similarity is the banana mag but that's just the reality of the cartridge dimensions. Had a little known designer ripped off the STG44 the Soviets would not have adopted it in 1947. They would have laughed at it.
- 13of40 8y ago
  > totally different operating mechanism Not really. The bolt locks differently, but it uses a bolt carrier, gas piston, and buffer spring like an AK. That said, the easiest way to dismiss the idea that an AK47 is a copy of the STG44 is to look at some of the gas operated rifles that preceded it in the Soviet Union, like the SKS, SVT-38, and AVS-36. Except the rotating bolt, they already had all the features of the AK in the 30's, and the rotating bolt is the one thing the STG44 doesn't have. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVS-36 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVS-36
PhasmaFelis 8y ago
Your snark isn't doing your point any favors.