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That the results didn't match the values. Disconnect happened for reasons I didn't fully understand. On a second observation I must have touched a VERY raw nerv

That the results didn't match the values. Disconnect happened for reasons I didn't fully understand. On a second observation I must have touched a VERY raw nerve given the huffy reactions.

michaelmrose 8y ago
Let me break it down. >I don't have a horse in this race but This is like someone saying I'm not racist but... After which they tell you why they really hate black people. You clearly do have an opinion your statement is a plea for imaginary objectivity. You follow it up by elevating anecdote to analysis without the work required for real insight. The crack about at least on its face is just designed to offend. The silly emoji after doesn't soften what is basically trolling. If you want to seriously discuss you should start by making substantial points.
- luckydata 8y ago
  I admire your restraint, you stopped short of calling me a nazi at least. Again, you're completely missing the point: I don't have to "prove" anything to you. I don't even code anymore for that matter, and I can't give two shits if you prefer to write Clojure, Typescript or whatever rocks your boat, that's something that matters to you and not to me. I simply observed that for a community that spends so much time talking about craftmanship and clean code, the worst messes I witnessed were all Clojure codebases and that's it. If you feel attacked... that's your own insecurity speaking.
  - michaelmrose 8y ago
    You don't have to prove anything but if you do have a negative or positive opinion to share optimally your original comment would indicate that you are willing and able to discuss the matter. Making a drive by comment and the copping out isn't much of a contribution to the conversation. Furthermore look at this comment. > I admire your restraint, you stopped short of calling me a nazi at least. Some time in your life you should try actually try being an asshole instead of playing one on tv. It would be more honest and satisfying and people that aren't thin skinned can take a little civil disagreement. All things suck to some degree. You might have an interesting perspective to share on situations where clojure sucks but you wouldn't know it because you are happy to stir up discussion but disinterested in any actual substantial disagreement. Guess that is done then.

That the results didn't match the values. Disconnect happened for reasons I didn't fully understand. On a second observation I must have touched a VERY raw nerve given the huffy reactions.

michaelmrose 8y ago

Let me break it down. >I don't have a horse in this race but This is like someone saying I'm not racist but... After which they tell you why they really hate black people. You clearly do have an opinion your statement is a plea for imaginary objectivity. You follow it up by elevating anecdote to analysis without the work required for real insight. The crack about at least on its face is just designed to offend. The silly emoji after doesn't soften what is basically trolling. If you want to seriously discuss you should start by making substantial points.

luckydata 8y ago
I admire your restraint, you stopped short of calling me a nazi at least. Again, you're completely missing the point: I don't have to "prove" anything to you. I don't even code anymore for that matter, and I can't give two shits if you prefer to write Clojure, Typescript or whatever rocks your boat, that's something that matters to you and not to me. I simply observed that for a community that spends so much time talking about craftmanship and clean code, the worst messes I witnessed were all Clojure codebases and that's it. If you feel attacked... that's your own insecurity speaking.
- michaelmrose 8y ago
  You don't have to prove anything but if you do have a negative or positive opinion to share optimally your original comment would indicate that you are willing and able to discuss the matter. Making a drive by comment and the copping out isn't much of a contribution to the conversation. Furthermore look at this comment. > I admire your restraint, you stopped short of calling me a nazi at least. Some time in your life you should try actually try being an asshole instead of playing one on tv. It would be more honest and satisfying and people that aren't thin skinned can take a little civil disagreement. All things suck to some degree. You might have an interesting perspective to share on situations where clojure sucks but you wouldn't know it because you are happy to stir up discussion but disinterested in any actual substantial disagreement. Guess that is done then.