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In my experience Google Maps fixed embedded maps about a year ago, it requires command-scroll to zoom and otherwise scrolls normally. I didn't realize that mig

In my experience Google Maps fixed embedded maps about a year ago, it requires command-scroll to zoom and otherwise scrolls normally. I didn't realize that might be browser-specific, I'm using macos + safari.

crazygringo 8y ago
Son of a gun. So for embedded maps, it only took them 13 years to fix, from 2005 to 2018. Better late than never, I suppose. However, it still doesn't change the fact that, on my Mac, on Google Maps proper I want to use scroll wheel or two-finger swipe equivalent to pan/scroll up-down or side-to-side like virtually every other app does, instead of zooming like virtually no other app does.
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  I think this is unique to you. Click + drag to pan and scroll to zoom has been the way maps work for as long as I can remember. Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird.
  - lstamour 8y ago
    Ah, you should’ve seen what we had before Google Maps — https://images.app.goo.gl/JQ5xAhP8HpZjRNby7 https://images.app.goo.gl/JQ5xAhP8HpZjRNby7 The map was a static image, you had to click to change zoom levels and wait for the entire page to reload, or click to move in a cardinal direction and then agonizingly wait for the page to reload. The idea you could have infinite scrolling tiles of map with a simple way to map directions that auto-completed street names parsing from a plain English search — that was basically a revelation. :) Though MapQuest did give decent directions and a nice overview of where you were going. Before that, you had to buy a book every year to keep in a glove compartment and look up street names in an alphabetical index, then go to a page number, look for a row and column and then plot a route by flipping between many pages or having traveled there before (aka getting lost) https://images.app.goo.gl/SdS9Z1rfs3HPJJwA9 https://images.app.goo.gl/SdS9Z1rfs3HPJJwA9 Also a Google Maps innovation—trying to accurately put street numbers on a map. You’d often know, in some books, where street numbers began and ended at intersections, but it was extra detail and was often left out or entirely wrong. Of course it’s still wrong today, but street view really changed all that.
    - joshuamorton 8y ago
      Should clarify: I have used an atlas (in fact I had one in my car in 2018 when I sold it), but internet maps have always used that interface, though I do remember that mapquest interface and the similar interface on tribalwars.net before it updated to use js and click+drag map scrolling.
    - Symbiote 8y ago
      If you want some nostalgia, StreetMap is still just as it was in 2002 or whatever. This alone convinced my father that it was worth having Internet access at home. http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531500&y=181500&z=120&sv=London&st=3&tl=Map+of+London,+City+of+London.+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531500&y=181500&z=120&sv=Lo...
  - Izkata 8y ago
    > Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird. Shift+scroll works as horizontal scroll in just about every place I've had reason to try it. (Outside of browsers, at least, though there I'm uncertain because everyone puts so much effort into eliminating any horizontal scroll)
    - frosted-flakes 8y ago
      Shift + scroll wheel scrolls horizontally in Firefox at least.
  - fouc 8y ago
    I think it's a configuration option when embedding the map, so it varies from site to site.
    - joshuamorton 8y ago
      I believe you're correct, although I'm talking less about embedded maps, where I agree that having the map take over scrolling is aggravating, and more about the map interface in general.
  - zimpenfish 8y ago
    No, I too want to use the trackpad to pan the map. Not least because my initial muscle memory is always "swipe to scroll" followed by "FECK GOOGLE" when it doesn't work and then switching to click-drag mode.
  - Aaargh20318 8y ago
    > Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird. Scroll wheels are still a thing in 2019 ? I can scroll in any direction using either the trackpad or a Magic Mouse in pretty much every app and website except Google Maps.
- lstamour 8y ago
  I think the counter-argument is you can drag-and-drop to pan the map (a Google Maps innovation) and so scroll-wheel was used with a mouse to zoom in (a “wow” feature from back then). But this is all very 2005, mouse-centric. It makes more sense when you consider Google Maps went full screen in a redesign — which lets them behave more like a game or interactive experience than a webpage. I remember mapping scroll wheel to switch weapons in more than one game—scrolling in games isn’t something you expect to do with a scroll wheel. That said I get frustrated easily on mobile when I zoom in or out in a map and I don’t mean to. It’d be nice to have a little “Undo” button/bar appear for 10 sec just to make life a bit easier.
- ars 8y ago
  Actually 2016: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/maps-platform/smart-scrolling-comes-to-mobile-web-maps https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/maps-platform/smart-s...
- tenryuu 8y ago
  I actually only really hate this because now it requires two active hands to control the map element. I'm sure google already did consider this when they decided to change the functionality

crazygringo 8y ago

Son of a gun. So for embedded maps, it only took them 13 years to fix, from 2005 to 2018. Better late than never, I suppose. However, it still doesn't change the fact that, on my Mac, on Google Maps proper I want to use scroll wheel or two-finger swipe equivalent to pan/scroll up-down or side-to-side like virtually every other app does, instead of zooming like virtually no other app does.

joshuamorton 8y ago
I think this is unique to you. Click + drag to pan and scroll to zoom has been the way maps work for as long as I can remember. Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird.
- lstamour 8y ago
  Ah, you should’ve seen what we had before Google Maps — https://images.app.goo.gl/JQ5xAhP8HpZjRNby7 https://images.app.goo.gl/JQ5xAhP8HpZjRNby7 The map was a static image, you had to click to change zoom levels and wait for the entire page to reload, or click to move in a cardinal direction and then agonizingly wait for the page to reload. The idea you could have infinite scrolling tiles of map with a simple way to map directions that auto-completed street names parsing from a plain English search — that was basically a revelation. :) Though MapQuest did give decent directions and a nice overview of where you were going. Before that, you had to buy a book every year to keep in a glove compartment and look up street names in an alphabetical index, then go to a page number, look for a row and column and then plot a route by flipping between many pages or having traveled there before (aka getting lost) https://images.app.goo.gl/SdS9Z1rfs3HPJJwA9 https://images.app.goo.gl/SdS9Z1rfs3HPJJwA9 Also a Google Maps innovation—trying to accurately put street numbers on a map. You’d often know, in some books, where street numbers began and ended at intersections, but it was extra detail and was often left out or entirely wrong. Of course it’s still wrong today, but street view really changed all that.
  - joshuamorton 8y ago
    Should clarify: I have used an atlas (in fact I had one in my car in 2018 when I sold it), but internet maps have always used that interface, though I do remember that mapquest interface and the similar interface on tribalwars.net before it updated to use js and click+drag map scrolling.
  - Symbiote 8y ago
    If you want some nostalgia, StreetMap is still just as it was in 2002 or whatever. This alone convinced my father that it was worth having Internet access at home. http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531500&y=181500&z=120&sv=London&st=3&tl=Map+of+London,+City+of+London.+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531500&y=181500&z=120&sv=Lo...
- Izkata 8y ago
  > Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird. Shift+scroll works as horizontal scroll in just about every place I've had reason to try it. (Outside of browsers, at least, though there I'm uncertain because everyone puts so much effort into eliminating any horizontal scroll)
  - frosted-flakes 8y ago
    Shift + scroll wheel scrolls horizontally in Firefox at least.
- fouc 8y ago
  I think it's a configuration option when embedding the map, so it varies from site to site.
  - joshuamorton 8y ago
    I believe you're correct, although I'm talking less about embedded maps, where I agree that having the map take over scrolling is aggravating, and more about the map interface in general.
- zimpenfish 8y ago
  No, I too want to use the trackpad to pan the map. Not least because my initial muscle memory is always "swipe to scroll" followed by "FECK GOOGLE" when it doesn't work and then switching to click-drag mode.
- Aaargh20318 8y ago
  > Having the scroll wheel move in y with no scroll to move in x just seems...weird. Scroll wheels are still a thing in 2019 ? I can scroll in any direction using either the trackpad or a Magic Mouse in pretty much every app and website except Google Maps.
lstamour 8y ago
I think the counter-argument is you can drag-and-drop to pan the map (a Google Maps innovation) and so scroll-wheel was used with a mouse to zoom in (a “wow” feature from back then). But this is all very 2005, mouse-centric. It makes more sense when you consider Google Maps went full screen in a redesign — which lets them behave more like a game or interactive experience than a webpage. I remember mapping scroll wheel to switch weapons in more than one game—scrolling in games isn’t something you expect to do with a scroll wheel. That said I get frustrated easily on mobile when I zoom in or out in a map and I don’t mean to. It’d be nice to have a little “Undo” button/bar appear for 10 sec just to make life a bit easier.
ars 8y ago
Actually 2016: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/maps-platform/smart-scrolling-comes-to-mobile-web-maps https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/maps-platform/smart-s...
tenryuu 8y ago
I actually only really hate this because now it requires two active hands to control the map element. I'm sure google already did consider this when they decided to change the functionality