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There is a rise of hate crimes committed by conservatives, a high profile example being the recent New Zealand killer who praised Trump in his manifesto. Also a

There is a rise of hate crimes committed by conservatives, a high profile example being the recent New Zealand killer who praised Trump in his manifesto. Also an increase in hate crimes against Muslims. I can think of two high profile fake hate crimes, as you mention. But that number is dwarfed by the number of actual hate crimes, which continue daily. I haven't heard about the violence against conservatives you mention... Can you point me at an example so I can learn more?

sparkie 8y ago
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/ https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-act...
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  Thanks for the link. Some legitimate violence in there. I do think leftist have an unacceptable problem with threats of violence, and media organizations inckuding Twitter don't take them seriously enough. Not particularly different than the right who also has a problem with violence and threats but I acknowledge there is a problem on both sides.
  - DFHippie 8y ago
    I'm not going to click on the Breitbart link. What is the list of murders committed by leftists equivalent to Tree of Life, Parkland, or Dylan Roof's massacre at the AME church in Charleston, say? Or Charlottesville? If we want to branch out from the U.S., how about Jo Cox in the UK or the Christchurch massacres in NZ? "There is a problem on both sides" is a pretty bland way to absolve the guiltier party.
    - sparkie 8y ago
      "They (who?) have a higher headcount so our violence is OK" Conservatives call out and distance themselves from the far-right and violence. A few deranged lunatics on the fringes of society do not represent conservative views. By attempting to disenfranchise conservatives, as the media are constantly doing, then it's no accident that there are an increased number of incidents coming from the mentally unstable who are the most misrepresented. The media are complicit in enabling and encouraging far-left violence, and are attempting to push the culture further and further to the left, even disenfranchising moderate liberals in the process who no longer want anything to do with them (who in turn get labeled "far-right Nazi's" for the non-conformance.) Left/Right violence is still dwarfed by Islamist terror incidents. Christians are still the most persecuted peoples on Earth. There are indeed problems on both the political extremes that we should all be working to tackle together, but apparently, there's no such thing as going too far to the left, as the current democrat candidates are competing for the title of who can go furthest. (I think we know the outcome, but if you live in the bubble of a college campus or in SV, you might not have an accurate gauge on reality).
leereeves 8y ago
> Can you point me at an example so I can learn more? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/0... > I can think of two high profile fake hate crimes I've never seen a complete list but this list has far more than two: https://causeaction.com/2019/02/18/reporter-andy-ngo-the-list-of-fake-hate-crimes-is-pretty-long/ https://causeaction.com/2019/02/18/reporter-andy-ngo-the-lis... And those are only the known hoaxes, of course.
BurningFrog 8y ago
I follow 1-2 angry conservatives on Twitter just to get a peek into that bubble, and I get to hear about a few definite anti conservative hate crimes most weeks.

sparkie 8y ago

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/ https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-act...

erikpukinskis 8y ago
Thanks for the link. Some legitimate violence in there. I do think leftist have an unacceptable problem with threats of violence, and media organizations inckuding Twitter don't take them seriously enough. Not particularly different than the right who also has a problem with violence and threats but I acknowledge there is a problem on both sides.
- DFHippie 8y ago
  I'm not going to click on the Breitbart link. What is the list of murders committed by leftists equivalent to Tree of Life, Parkland, or Dylan Roof's massacre at the AME church in Charleston, say? Or Charlottesville? If we want to branch out from the U.S., how about Jo Cox in the UK or the Christchurch massacres in NZ? "There is a problem on both sides" is a pretty bland way to absolve the guiltier party.
  - sparkie 8y ago
    "They (who?) have a higher headcount so our violence is OK" Conservatives call out and distance themselves from the far-right and violence. A few deranged lunatics on the fringes of society do not represent conservative views. By attempting to disenfranchise conservatives, as the media are constantly doing, then it's no accident that there are an increased number of incidents coming from the mentally unstable who are the most misrepresented. The media are complicit in enabling and encouraging far-left violence, and are attempting to push the culture further and further to the left, even disenfranchising moderate liberals in the process who no longer want anything to do with them (who in turn get labeled "far-right Nazi's" for the non-conformance.) Left/Right violence is still dwarfed by Islamist terror incidents. Christians are still the most persecuted peoples on Earth. There are indeed problems on both the political extremes that we should all be working to tackle together, but apparently, there's no such thing as going too far to the left, as the current democrat candidates are competing for the title of who can go furthest. (I think we know the outcome, but if you live in the bubble of a college campus or in SV, you might not have an accurate gauge on reality).

leereeves 8y ago

> Can you point me at an example so I can learn more? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/0... > I can think of two high profile fake hate crimes I've never seen a complete list but this list has far more than two: https://causeaction.com/2019/02/18/reporter-andy-ngo-the-list-of-fake-hate-crimes-is-pretty-long/ https://causeaction.com/2019/02/18/reporter-andy-ngo-the-lis... And those are only the known hoaxes, of course.

BurningFrog 8y ago

I follow 1-2 angry conservatives on Twitter just to get a peek into that bubble, and I get to hear about a few definite anti conservative hate crimes most weeks.