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So strange. You grow up all your life being told how great democracy is, how we live under the rule and process of the law, how we are a tolerant and free socie
by Andrew_Quentin 16y ago
So strange. You grow up all your life being told how great democracy is, how we live under the rule and process of the law, how we are a tolerant and free society which values free thinking, which values the right to speech, however offending or off that speech may be.
As you grow up however, you kind of start realising that much of the above is sort of true in theory, but not true in practice, especially if the freedom of speech concerns a criticism of those who have more power than you. It is because power corrupts that many people had to die to ensure that we today live in relative freedom. It is because those in power have the means to subvert criticism and silence such criticism that it has been necessary for many to be shunned, called lunatics, heretics, traitors, or to die, so that truth can be spoken to power, so that truth can be spoken to power in order to preserve our liberty.
The right to free speech does not apply only to the dissemination of pictures of cats. A society and its adherence to its principles are tested and shown when power is seriously criticised, when power is or has the potential to be seriously undermined, not, when someone writes about lolcats because people even in North Korea can write about lolcats.
I am very amazed that people even consider an attack on wikileaks to be 'good', or that a real attack on the wikileaks founder would have been even better, because, they consider the leak to be a potential attack on their own percieved or real self interests, such as the image of their nation around the world, or that the world may find out that real life is so much more interesting that any fantasy book that can be written or any idealistic principle that can be formulated.
I consider it amazing that anyone may even think of supporting an attack by what may be a state actor, not because of any breach of law, but because it is embarrassing to such state actor.
We are not children any more, and if our principles are to die with the passing of our childhood, then we might need to consider the principles in the first place, their truth, their applicability, whether our generation of grown up adults wants to stand by them and continue supporting them. If we as the people wish to turn a blind eye to government censorship, to dirty tactics by governments through reputation damage by means of charges unsupported by evidence, if we are going to eat up the effective propaganda (PR I read somewhere began as an industry after the second world war and was based on the effectiveness of Hitler's tactics) and blindly state that such an attack is a good thing whether by anyone, let alone the government, simply because our perceived interest may potentially be damaged or undermined, not because of any reason of principle, not because we consider it to be an illegal activity not even based on reasonable moral arguments, but simply and only because it is a criticism which embarrasses, then something has gone badly wrong since the time I was born and now that I have grown up.
Truth is Power. Suppression of truth allows power to corrupt. That is why we have such principles of freedom of speech and such principles are not quantifiable simply by our embarrassment when criticised, or even more woringly, by the embarrassment of politicians.
- nhangen 16y agoThere's a difference between truth and security of truth. One reveals to all, while the other protects by doing the opposite. Managing information like this is not easy, and though it's easy to fault a government for hiding and/or obscuring the truth, there are some things that are better left unknown.
- jeangenie 16y agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM
- vaksel 16y agoFrom what I understand, Wikileaks is willing to work with the government in order to hide the things that are truly dangerous...and not just secret because someone did something illegal/unethical
- nhangen 16y agoWho is to be the one to judge what is dangerous? Assange? As I said in another comment, I don't believe that Assange knows the power of this information, whether we're talking secrets or classified information.
- zbanks 16y ago@nhangen: The government. They offered to collaborate in order to make sure nothing bad would be released. The government ignored them, however. What does that say?