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Reminds me of door control buttons in an elevator that you use everyday only to find the button resting on the floor one day, revealing that it was adhered to t

Reminds me of door control buttons in an elevator that you use everyday only to find the button resting on the floor one day, revealing that it was adhered to the control panel with a hot glue gun the whole time.

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wastholm 8y ago
I keep hearing that, and apparently that's the case in the US [1]. In Japan, the buttons are usually very much operational and they have devised a whole system of etiquette around them. [2] [1] https://www.sciencealert.com/the-close-door-buttons-in-elevators-don-t-actually-do-anything https://www.sciencealert.com/the-close-door-buttons-in-eleva... [2] https://boingboing.net/2017/10/12/button-mashing.html https://boingboing.net/2017/10/12/button-mashing.html
- RandomGuyDTB 8y ago
  The US buttons don't work because there are mandatory waiting times for the doors closing due to the ADA ((your article mentions that)) - they're still normally plugged in.
  - ams6110 8y ago
    I've been in elevators where they definitely did work, with immediate effect. But also some where they don't seem to do anything.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  that's the case in the US [1]. In Japan Broad generalizations about nations are rarely accurate. It has to do with the owners of the elevators choosing to override the programming. Elevator doors are initially programmed to stay open for a period of time based on their capacity, intended use, type of building, etc... If the owner or installer of the elevator finds this default not suitable for the environment and use, then the wait time can be changed, and/or the door close button function can be altered. [edit] In some elevators, the reason the door close button doesn't work is because it's not meant to be used by ordinary people on an ordinary day. It's meant for when the elevator is in utility or fire mode, used by maintenance people, firefighters, moving companies, etc... They push the door open button and the door opens, and stays open while equipment is moved in and out. The door closes when the door close button is pressed. People assume every button is for them.
  - wastholm 8y ago
    > Broad generalizations about nations are rarely accurate. Agreed. But I was trying, by giving a counterexample, to respond to an even broader generalization: that "door buttons in elevators don't do anything". And I did say "usually".
GordonS 8y ago
Anecdotally, there does seem to be a lot of elevators for which the "close doors" button doesn't work, which I can only assume is deliberate. Haven't noticed any other buttons not working though.

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wastholm 8y ago

I keep hearing that, and apparently that's the case in the US [1]. In Japan, the buttons are usually very much operational and they have devised a whole system of etiquette around them. [2] [1] https://www.sciencealert.com/the-close-door-buttons-in-elevators-don-t-actually-do-anything https://www.sciencealert.com/the-close-door-buttons-in-eleva... [2] https://boingboing.net/2017/10/12/button-mashing.html https://boingboing.net/2017/10/12/button-mashing.html

RandomGuyDTB 8y ago
The US buttons don't work because there are mandatory waiting times for the doors closing due to the ADA ((your article mentions that)) - they're still normally plugged in.
- ams6110 8y ago
  I've been in elevators where they definitely did work, with immediate effect. But also some where they don't seem to do anything.
reaperducer 8y ago
that's the case in the US [1]. In Japan Broad generalizations about nations are rarely accurate. It has to do with the owners of the elevators choosing to override the programming. Elevator doors are initially programmed to stay open for a period of time based on their capacity, intended use, type of building, etc... If the owner or installer of the elevator finds this default not suitable for the environment and use, then the wait time can be changed, and/or the door close button function can be altered. [edit] In some elevators, the reason the door close button doesn't work is because it's not meant to be used by ordinary people on an ordinary day. It's meant for when the elevator is in utility or fire mode, used by maintenance people, firefighters, moving companies, etc... They push the door open button and the door opens, and stays open while equipment is moved in and out. The door closes when the door close button is pressed. People assume every button is for them.
- wastholm 8y ago
  > Broad generalizations about nations are rarely accurate. Agreed. But I was trying, by giving a counterexample, to respond to an even broader generalization: that "door buttons in elevators don't do anything". And I did say "usually".

GordonS 8y ago

Anecdotally, there does seem to be a lot of elevators for which the "close doors" button doesn't work, which I can only assume is deliberate. Haven't noticed any other buttons not working though.