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This is propaganda. This is what this thread is about.

akhilcacharya 8y ago
In what way? It's absolutely true. It's not possible to reason away the criminality of the people Trump appointed or selected. I'm genuinely unsure of what would convince Matt Taibbi that Russiagate was a dud with so many indictments and such a consequential SCO investigation.
- thatoneuser 8y ago
  The point of mueller was to determine if Trump worked with Russia to steal a us presidential election. I may just not know the evidence so I'm asking in total honesty - what indictments demonstrate that happened?
  - akhilcacharya 8y ago
    > The point of mueller was to determine if Trump worked with Russia to steal a us presidential election. This is false, the charter was more broad than that. It investigated interference in the Russian election including this possibility. This is why they also prosecuted cases against Russian intelligence officers that performed the hacking operations and individuals that lied to the FBI over their ties to Russian cutouts in Wikileaks (specifically Stone and Corsi, though they gave up on Corsi). Stone: https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c >After WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016, released hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, the indictment says, a senior Trump campaign official “was directed” to contact Stone about additional releases and “what other damaging information” WikiLeaks had “regarding the Clinton campaign.” The indictment does not name the official or say who directed the outreach to Stone. Russian Intelligence: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indictment-russian-intelligence-hacking.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indic... > coordinated to release damaging information to sway the election under the names “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0.” Meanwhile I'm old enough to remember people saying Guccifer 2.0 was an "inside source". How the tables turn.
    - thatoneuser 8y ago
      Unless you cite something that verifies your claim, you're just making things up.
      - akhilcacharya 8y ago
        I...literally linked the news reports of the indictments which link to the indictments themselves.
        thatoneuser 8y ago
        An indictment isn't proof of anything you said. Please look up what an indictment means. Also - muellers report is out and trump is clean. So clearly you're wrong. After 3 years its time to man up and accept that.
- Fjolsvith 8y ago
  Why has there been a big turnover of the Trump administration these last two years? Is it perhaps that because Trump was an outsider, he went along with people saying hire this guy who'd be good for the job, and then later fired him when it turned out that guy wasn't on the team? Trump has been cleaning house, getting rid of the liberal plants whose job was to smear and discredit the new administration. Look at the list of purges: https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-shine-and-other-notable-trump-admin-departures/2264148/ https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-shine-and-other-notabl...

In what way? It's absolutely true. It's not possible to reason away the criminality of the people Trump appointed or selected. I'm genuinely unsure of what would convince Matt Taibbi that Russiagate was a dud with so many indictments and such a consequential SCO investigation.

thatoneuser 8y ago
The point of mueller was to determine if Trump worked with Russia to steal a us presidential election. I may just not know the evidence so I'm asking in total honesty - what indictments demonstrate that happened?
- akhilcacharya 8y ago
  > The point of mueller was to determine if Trump worked with Russia to steal a us presidential election. This is false, the charter was more broad than that. It investigated interference in the Russian election including this possibility. This is why they also prosecuted cases against Russian intelligence officers that performed the hacking operations and individuals that lied to the FBI over their ties to Russian cutouts in Wikileaks (specifically Stone and Corsi, though they gave up on Corsi). Stone: https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c >After WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016, released hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee, the indictment says, a senior Trump campaign official “was directed” to contact Stone about additional releases and “what other damaging information” WikiLeaks had “regarding the Clinton campaign.” The indictment does not name the official or say who directed the outreach to Stone. Russian Intelligence: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indictment-russian-intelligence-hacking.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indic... > coordinated to release damaging information to sway the election under the names “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0.” Meanwhile I'm old enough to remember people saying Guccifer 2.0 was an "inside source". How the tables turn.
  - thatoneuser 8y ago
    Unless you cite something that verifies your claim, you're just making things up.
    - akhilcacharya 8y ago
      I...literally linked the news reports of the indictments which link to the indictments themselves.
      - thatoneuser 8y ago
        An indictment isn't proof of anything you said. Please look up what an indictment means. Also - muellers report is out and trump is clean. So clearly you're wrong. After 3 years its time to man up and accept that.
Fjolsvith 8y ago
Why has there been a big turnover of the Trump administration these last two years? Is it perhaps that because Trump was an outsider, he went along with people saying hire this guy who'd be good for the job, and then later fired him when it turned out that guy wasn't on the team? Trump has been cleaning house, getting rid of the liberal plants whose job was to smear and discredit the new administration. Look at the list of purges: https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-shine-and-other-notable-trump-admin-departures/2264148/ https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-shine-and-other-notabl...