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It is bizarre when an opinion piece on the death of the American news media, makes the same mistakes as the news media i.e. blending facts and opinion as one an
by areoform 8y ago
It is bizarre when an opinion piece on the death of the American news media, makes the same mistakes as the news media i.e. blending facts and opinion as one and treating editorials as news. For E.g.
“There will be people protesting: the Mueller report doesn’t prove anything! What about the 37 indictments? The convictions? The Trump tower revelations? The lies! The meeting with Don, Jr.? The financial matters! There’s an ongoing grand jury investigation, and possible sealed indictments, and the House will still investigate, and…
Stop. Just stop. Any journalist who goes there is making it worse.”
This is actually factually wrong. It is persuasive but wrong because while Mueller isn’t pursuing more prosecutions, he has referred people on for more prosecutions and investigations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-repor...
Also no one is actually saying that the mueller report doesn’t prove anything, because no one has read it yet. And that position is a rhetorical flourish that makes no sense given that all of the indictments, prosecutorial referrals etc were done by Mueller.
The next few sentences aren’t true either;
“The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.“
First of all, he plead guilty to charges by the SDNY. AFAICT, The WSJ broke the story, Common Cause then filed a lawsuit followed by Stormy Daniels, and then the FBI raid happened. So this claim is actually inaccurate.
He has a point to make and he is willing to throw facts into the blender to make it. He is also a part of what’s wrong with the media and seems to be unable to recognize that.
Edit: given the downvoting here are some citations;
WSJ breaking the story - https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-p...
Common Cause’s lawsuit - https://www.npr.org/2018/05/03/608291878/watchdog-questions-whether-trumps-reimbursement-is-a-campaign-finance-violation https://www.npr.org/2018/05/03/608291878/watchdog-questions-...
SDNY and Cohen - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5453401-SDNY-Cohen-sentencing-memo.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5453401-SDNY-Cohen-s...
- ForrestN 8y agoYes. I agree completely. The part of the media committed to appearing savvy at all costs is definitely part of the problem.
- abrahamepton 8y agoIt is very odd and telling that this is the comment that gets downvoted on this thread, while all the deep-state ravings get upvotes. What is happening to HN?
- read_if_gay_ 8y agoWhat deep-state ravings? I didn't come across a single upvoted top level comment fitting that description.