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>For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachme

>For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is out, unless something “so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan” against Trump is uncovered it would be worth their political trouble to prosecut Genuinely confused - is it not worse than Watergate? At least Watergate was done by Americans. The Mueller investigation confirmed the source of the hacks and the propanda effort in nauseating detail that was denied and dismissed during the campaign.

lamarpye 8y ago
It is worse than Watergate. The FBI spied on a Presidential campaign using evidence supplied and paid for by the another candidate. If the names were changed, Hacker News people would be outraged. They would be mad at the FISA court, mad at the FBI, mad at the media. Look in the mirror and decide, do you have consistent principles or do they own apply in certain situations.
- abrahamepton 8y ago
  Multiple senior members of a Presidential campaign have either pled guilty or been convicted of serious felonies, and you think the ones to blame are the FBI? I mean I think the FBI has a lot to answer for, here and on plenty of other issues, but... I don't know how to tell you this, because you won't believe it, but if you're sincere and not a troll then you have a very unhealthy media diet. Your take here is very disconnected from reality. I'm sure you disagree. Alas.
  - dang 8y ago
    Would you please not cross into incivility and personal swipes, regardless of how wrong someone else is or how strongly you feel? Your comments have been increasingly breaking the site guidelines in this thread. I know this is an issue on which views are both polarized and fixed. But that's why the guidelines say that comments should get more civil and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - lamarpye 8y ago
    How is my take looking today?

lamarpye 8y ago

It is worse than Watergate. The FBI spied on a Presidential campaign using evidence supplied and paid for by the another candidate. If the names were changed, Hacker News people would be outraged. They would be mad at the FISA court, mad at the FBI, mad at the media. Look in the mirror and decide, do you have consistent principles or do they own apply in certain situations.

abrahamepton 8y ago
Multiple senior members of a Presidential campaign have either pled guilty or been convicted of serious felonies, and you think the ones to blame are the FBI? I mean I think the FBI has a lot to answer for, here and on plenty of other issues, but... I don't know how to tell you this, because you won't believe it, but if you're sincere and not a troll then you have a very unhealthy media diet. Your take here is very disconnected from reality. I'm sure you disagree. Alas.
- dang 8y ago
  Would you please not cross into incivility and personal swipes, regardless of how wrong someone else is or how strongly you feel? Your comments have been increasingly breaking the site guidelines in this thread. I know this is an issue on which views are both polarized and fixed. But that's why the guidelines say that comments should get more civil and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- lamarpye 8y ago
  How is my take looking today?