This debate, like most political debates that touch on philosophy, is amazing but impossible to conduct with the general public. It's the kind of thing you can

This debate, like most political debates that touch on philosophy, is amazing but impossible to conduct with the general public. It's the kind of thing you can only discuss with people who are already open to question certain norms. Right in another thread is an article about a pacemaker. Almost nothing in a car, let alone in any electronic device, is untouched by human invention and chemical/physical transformation. Tradition — what "natural" ultimately amounts to — is prologue, not fate.