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You are ignoring "proportionality" part and "not liable if" part. Yes EU regulators wouldn't be chasing small blogs just like they do not do it with GDPR regula

by llukas 8y ago

You are ignoring "proportionality" part and "not liable if" part. Yes EU regulators wouldn't be chasing small blogs just like they do not do it with GDPR regulations. Big boys like Amazon wouldn't be able to get away with this shit (ends up on HN regularly): https://www.extremetech.com/internet/268109-an-update-on-my-stolen-book-and-job-on-amazon https://www.extremetech.com/internet/268109-an-update-on-my-... https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/01/02/amazon-scams-on-the-rise-in-2017-as-fraudulent-sellers-run-amok-and-profit-big/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/01/02/amazon-s... Now you tell me how do you make Amazon and similar not to profit off scam? Ask them nicely? Doesn't work.

ben_w 8y ago
In debates like this, I tend to mention that UK law has prison time for commercial copyright infringement. Not being a lawyer, I have no idea how hard it is for a prosecutor to get that outcome. (So far as opinion, I would like copyright duration reduced to 7 years from publication, but suspect it is easier to make a human-level-creative AI then to change the law).
raverbashing 8y ago
The Amazon example is not exactly related to the current issue and copyright violation already exists in law. > Now you tell me how do you make Amazon and similar not to profit off scam? The fact that they're selling a plagiarized book is grounds for a lawsuit from the author.
anonymousab 8y ago
How would you automatically distinguish between copyrighted material and parody/satire/fair use? Google seems to have had such a hard time doing so that it has the appearance that they've given up
hyperman1 8y ago
For the GDPR, only the regulator can sue. Everyone else can only complain to the regulator. This minimizes the number of possible suits. For article 13, everybody can sue. And copyright already has lows like grannies without internet ending up in a court for alleged file sharing. the 2 laws are not even remotely comparable.

by llukas 8y ago

ben_w 8y ago

In debates like this, I tend to mention that UK law has prison time for commercial copyright infringement. Not being a lawyer, I have no idea how hard it is for a prosecutor to get that outcome. (So far as opinion, I would like copyright duration reduced to 7 years from publication, but suspect it is easier to make a human-level-creative AI then to change the law).

raverbashing 8y ago

The Amazon example is not exactly related to the current issue and copyright violation already exists in law. > Now you tell me how do you make Amazon and similar not to profit off scam? The fact that they're selling a plagiarized book is grounds for a lawsuit from the author.

anonymousab 8y ago

How would you automatically distinguish between copyrighted material and parody/satire/fair use? Google seems to have had such a hard time doing so that it has the appearance that they've given up

hyperman1 8y ago

For the GDPR, only the regulator can sue. Everyone else can only complain to the regulator. This minimizes the number of possible suits. For article 13, everybody can sue. And copyright already has lows like grannies without internet ending up in a court for alleged file sharing. the 2 laws are not even remotely comparable.