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That won't work, because the protocol has changed. No pilot today will open the door, even as someone dies every 20 minutes. The pilots will divert to the close

That won't work, because the protocol has changed. No pilot today will open the door, even as someone dies every 20 minutes. The pilots will divert to the closest airport and land.

iforgotpassword 8y ago
I wouldn't bet on that. It might be protocol, but they're humans, not robots.
- dmix 8y ago
  Considering letting the pilot take control of the controls far more likely increases the casualty count to everyone on board + far more people on the ground, so I believe landing is still the better option and is something that pilots can learn.
  - iforgotpassword 8y ago
    Yes, that is some flawless logic. Also, if you were a pilot losing control of your airplane, the best thing to do would be to stay calm, quickly analyze the solution, go through appropriate checklists and try to fix the situation. That's something pilots can learn. I would actually go as far as claim that's what they're actually taught. However if you search on YouTube, you'll find quite some voice recordings of crashed flights where you can clearly infer from the recording that panic seemed to guide the actions in the cockpit. I think this is far more likely to increase the chances of the pilots failing to regain control of the aircraft, leading to a lot of deaths. So I wouldn't bet on those very same people to always think as rationally as you described here. Rational thinking and panic usually don't work together that well.
- setpatchaddress 8y ago
  No. The pilots know that they'll be dead if they open the door. I take it you're too young to remember 9/11?
  - iforgotpassword 8y ago
    There's plenty of blackbox recordings and transcripts out there of pilots losing control and freaking out instead of trying to stay calm and try to fix the situation. Most recent example is lion air. How the fuck can you seriously think every pilot on this planet would stay calm, act absolutely rationally and not panic if they can hear people being shot behind a closed door, especially if they'd been told they can make it stop by opening the door? That's like a hundred times more psychological stress. Seems like you should get out some time, have interactions with real people.

That won't work, because the protocol has changed. No pilot today will open the door, even as someone dies every 20 minutes. The pilots will divert to the closest airport and land.

iforgotpassword 8y ago

I wouldn't bet on that. It might be protocol, but they're humans, not robots.

dmix 8y ago
Considering letting the pilot take control of the controls far more likely increases the casualty count to everyone on board + far more people on the ground, so I believe landing is still the better option and is something that pilots can learn.
- iforgotpassword 8y ago
  Yes, that is some flawless logic. Also, if you were a pilot losing control of your airplane, the best thing to do would be to stay calm, quickly analyze the solution, go through appropriate checklists and try to fix the situation. That's something pilots can learn. I would actually go as far as claim that's what they're actually taught. However if you search on YouTube, you'll find quite some voice recordings of crashed flights where you can clearly infer from the recording that panic seemed to guide the actions in the cockpit. I think this is far more likely to increase the chances of the pilots failing to regain control of the aircraft, leading to a lot of deaths. So I wouldn't bet on those very same people to always think as rationally as you described here. Rational thinking and panic usually don't work together that well.
setpatchaddress 8y ago
No. The pilots know that they'll be dead if they open the door. I take it you're too young to remember 9/11?
- iforgotpassword 8y ago
  There's plenty of blackbox recordings and transcripts out there of pilots losing control and freaking out instead of trying to stay calm and try to fix the situation. Most recent example is lion air. How the fuck can you seriously think every pilot on this planet would stay calm, act absolutely rationally and not panic if they can hear people being shot behind a closed door, especially if they'd been told they can make it stop by opening the door? That's like a hundred times more psychological stress. Seems like you should get out some time, have interactions with real people.