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So we should never have parking lots, because they could be repurposed into homes for homeless people? I feel this is only really relevant to high-density citi

by gph 8y ago

So we should never have parking lots, because they could be repurposed into homes for homeless people? I feel this is only really relevant to high-density cities that are being underdeveloped because of local regulations and NIMBY. Most of America has plenty of space when it comes down to it. And aren't the parking lots this article is talking about basically public access parking for beaches? Do ya'll really think it's reasonable to say we need to remove public beach parking because it could be better used for condos? Because that's dumb, and that quote I responded to was said as if parking is a violation of human rights because it takes away room for shelter.

karambahh 8y ago
In all honesty, I'm not sure I understand your train of thought[0]: why would re-purposing beach parking into housing be dumb as an absolute? There are probably places where that would be dumb and others where the community as a whole would benefit from increased housing availability? Most of America has plenty of space but why would anyone agree to live in bumfuck nowhere? How could they make a living out of nowhere (remote jobs are, in the grand scheme of things, a drop in the bucket)? Why should they forego access to health services, community & the fabric of society? Some human beings enjoying being solitary but we all crave to various degrees of social interaction. To answer your comment in a too simplistic way: if parking does take room away from shelter, yes, absolutely, that's very bad urban planning & if done on purpose is a "violation" of the rights of those who needed that shelter. Except that life & urban planning aren't always that cut and dry and we need parking space, shops, warehouses, factories, housing & animal shelters and a myriad other things, as well as stop urban sprawling as much as possible. [0]there might be a cultural/language bias generated by me having english as a 2nd language
- gnat 8y ago
  "bumfuck nowhere" ... Aussie or Kiwi? :)
  - pjeide 8y ago
    Or New York or Connecticut or Colorado... or probably a myriad of other places that I've heard the phrase used.
CalRobert 8y ago
No, we should let people willing to pay market price for the land live on it if they wish. Or park. Or garden. Whatever. Just not make taxpayers subsidize car storage.

by gph 8y ago

karambahh 8y ago

In all honesty, I'm not sure I understand your train of thought[0]: why would re-purposing beach parking into housing be dumb as an absolute? There are probably places where that would be dumb and others where the community as a whole would benefit from increased housing availability? Most of America has plenty of space but why would anyone agree to live in bumfuck nowhere? How could they make a living out of nowhere (remote jobs are, in the grand scheme of things, a drop in the bucket)? Why should they forego access to health services, community & the fabric of society? Some human beings enjoying being solitary but we all crave to various degrees of social interaction. To answer your comment in a too simplistic way: if parking does take room away from shelter, yes, absolutely, that's very bad urban planning & if done on purpose is a "violation" of the rights of those who needed that shelter. Except that life & urban planning aren't always that cut and dry and we need parking space, shops, warehouses, factories, housing & animal shelters and a myriad other things, as well as stop urban sprawling as much as possible. [0]there might be a cultural/language bias generated by me having english as a 2nd language

gnat 8y ago
"bumfuck nowhere" ... Aussie or Kiwi? :)
- pjeide 8y ago
  Or New York or Connecticut or Colorado... or probably a myriad of other places that I've heard the phrase used.

CalRobert 8y ago

No, we should let people willing to pay market price for the land live on it if they wish. Or park. Or garden. Whatever. Just not make taxpayers subsidize car storage.