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They have 1702 employees and $7.6m profit (net income) on $331m revenues for 2019. Their financial statement shows that of their $263m in 2019 operating expense
by throwawaysea 8y ago
They have 1702 employees and $7.6m profit (net income) on $331m revenues for 2019. Their financial statement shows that of their $263m in 2019 operating expense, $186m is in sales and marketing. $33m in R&D. And nearly $2m of that $7.5m in net income comes from interest income and other income.
The gross margin figures (82% for 2019) are defined as "revenue - cost of revenue". And cost of revenue is:
> Cost of revenue primarily consists of costs related to hosting our video-first communications platform and providing general operating support services to our customers. These costs are comprised of co-located data center costs, third-party cloud hosting costs, integrated third-party public switched telephone network (PSTN) services, personnel-related expenses, amortization of capitalized software development costs and allocated overhead costs. Indirect overhead associated with corporate facilities and related depreciation is allocated to cost of revenue and operating expenses based on applicable headcount.
While I do like that they are profitable and have a plan for profit, unlike the other glitzier tech IPOs, it does seem like the return on capital is low. They have received $146m in funding to date (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/zoom-video-communications https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/zoom-video-communica...) after all, and in the end, $7.6m/year is not much to show for it. This is really a bet that in the long term, the costs in sales, marketing, R&D, and General Administration can be cut severely so that the revenue can be realized as mostly profit. Hard to know if that day will actually come.
- ultrasaurus 8y agoThey haven't spent all of that $146: "Much of the primary capital that we have raised in recent years remains on our balance sheet" in fact it looks like they actually have more cash on hand than they raised (due to pre-pays for contracts, even if they can't recognize it). Profitable + Net dollar expansion of 140% + Growing 118% YoY at over 100MM in revenue + 4%-ish penetration in the F500 so there's room to grow, this is an amazing set of numbers.
- kenneth 8y agoThe curse of being profitable. Everyone always laments how "little profit" is made, whereas wildly unprofitable companies are seen as big opportunities (e.g. Lyft).
- yingw787 8y agoI think this is an interesting observation. I am curious to know, what would you say an ideal net income pre-IPO for a tech company aiming for profitability should be? I have no idea. I thought it might be enough to simply prove profitability in the pre-IPO phase, and then use additional capital raised post-IPO to flesh out their moats and prepare for faster growth in the future. I don't see why the public markets might demand an immediate cost cutting, unless they seriously are that short-sighted (but I don't know anything about public markets). I'm hoping that Zoom can prove you can be profitable and still succeed in the public markets. That piqued my interest coming to this post. It sucks how many companies just stay unprofitable and private, or go public only for employees/founders/investors to dump shares and run.