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I'm definitely not going to try this because it sounds like an easy way to get in trouble, but would this work on a host like DO/linode/vultr, etc? Again, this

I'm definitely not going to try this because it sounds like an easy way to get in trouble, but would this work on a host like DO/linode/vultr, etc? Again, this seems really easy to detect

LinuxBender 8y ago
Yes be super careful with Labrea on VPS providers and dedicated server providers. They tend to get upset if you are trying to pick up IP's. In most cases it won't even work on KVM hosts. I've used Labrea on unused address space to make ARIN/RIPE happy back in the day and that was harmless, as entire /16's and /17's were unused. They used to nag about nothing in the /16's being pingable, so Labrea made it all 100% pingable
- DKnoll 8y ago
  Why hold onto addresses you're not using? This is against the allocation requirements and lead to the IPv4 exhaustion we have now.
  - zylent 8y ago
    If you have an ARIN allocation, there is no reason you would ever want to decrease the amount of addresses you own. You own them.
    - def8cefe 8y ago
      Whether you own them or not is subject to a lot of debate and not clear cut. If you owned them, why would you need to fool ARIN into believing they are being utilised? The agreement you make to get an allocation requires a certain level of utilization depending on the size of the block to prevent squatting and exhaustion of resources. This is a good thing, and if it was actually respected we wouldn't be in a mad rush to migrate to IPv6.
      - rwbhn 8y ago
        "Mad rush" - heh. I'd hate to see how long something rolled out at a leisurely pace would take!
        y4mi 8y ago
        > IPv6 is intended to replace IPv4. In December 1998, IPv6 became a Draft Standard for the IETF, who subsequently ratified it as an Internet Standard on 14 July 2017 it only took 20 years to standardize after all. we're seriously rushing here!
lucb1e 8y ago
Oh I was thinking home network or some small business. I'm not yet used to this cloud thing, still hosting my email and website at home. For a network that is not yours, like at a VPS provider, I would totally not try this. They would not be amused.

I'm definitely not going to try this because it sounds like an easy way to get in trouble, but would this work on a host like DO/linode/vultr, etc? Again, this seems really easy to detect

LinuxBender 8y ago

Yes be super careful with Labrea on VPS providers and dedicated server providers. They tend to get upset if you are trying to pick up IP's. In most cases it won't even work on KVM hosts. I've used Labrea on unused address space to make ARIN/RIPE happy back in the day and that was harmless, as entire /16's and /17's were unused. They used to nag about nothing in the /16's being pingable, so Labrea made it all 100% pingable

DKnoll 8y ago
Why hold onto addresses you're not using? This is against the allocation requirements and lead to the IPv4 exhaustion we have now.
- zylent 8y ago
  If you have an ARIN allocation, there is no reason you would ever want to decrease the amount of addresses you own. You own them.
  - def8cefe 8y ago
    Whether you own them or not is subject to a lot of debate and not clear cut. If you owned them, why would you need to fool ARIN into believing they are being utilised? The agreement you make to get an allocation requires a certain level of utilization depending on the size of the block to prevent squatting and exhaustion of resources. This is a good thing, and if it was actually respected we wouldn't be in a mad rush to migrate to IPv6.
    - rwbhn 8y ago
      "Mad rush" - heh. I'd hate to see how long something rolled out at a leisurely pace would take!
      - y4mi 8y ago
        > IPv6 is intended to replace IPv4. In December 1998, IPv6 became a Draft Standard for the IETF, who subsequently ratified it as an Internet Standard on 14 July 2017 it only took 20 years to standardize after all. we're seriously rushing here!

lucb1e 8y ago

Oh I was thinking home network or some small business. I'm not yet used to this cloud thing, still hosting my email and website at home. For a network that is not yours, like at a VPS provider, I would totally not try this. They would not be amused.