but I don't see how you are debating me! I mostly agree, but that's my argument :) > If Haskell was truly free of any state, this would be impossible to guara

but I don't see how you are debating me! I mostly agree, but that's my argument :) > If Haskell was truly free of any state, this would be impossible to guarantee. I was never claming that haskell was free of state, i was claiming the opposite! That state and purity are not mutually exclusive, they just result in constructions like monad.