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We may fail, but at least we tried. That's the main thing, isn't it? </sarcasm>

AndyKelley 16y ago
I don't appreciate this type of humor, but Estragon is correct. A programmer, especially of the startup nature, should know this fact all too well: In the real world it's not about how hard you tried, it's about results. Work smarter, not harder.
- daeken 16y ago
  It's not the fact that you tried that's important. It's that if you try, you have at least some chance of success; if you don't try, then failure is implied.
  - loltar 16y ago
    This is only true if you try at the right things. Your goal appears to be an effort to demonetize content creation, thus disincentivizing the creation of valuable, interesting content. Your secondary goal appears to be making it easier for people who violate laws to get away with it without penalty, thus incentivizing lazy, value-stealing, criminal activity. Your goals are horrible. I'm just glad that you're horrible at pursuing them.
- cookiecaper 16y ago
  Not everything works that way. Some things require cooperation from more than a handful of people. You can launch a company and become very rich and successful even if only an infantesimal amount of people out there buy your product. You can't really change the political direction of a country, especially a large country like the US, without the cooperation and buy-in of a lot of people. It's not going to happen. I say that with some surety based on dogma, but I think it's also evident from an intellectual perspective that the likelihood for a rebound to good political and general philosophy is not high. Our people bear the tell-tale signs of a decaying society; the arrogance, the skewed sense of invulnerability, the ignorance and decadence that characterize civilizations on the brink of collapse. Our political landscape is becoming increasingly polarized and dangerous seeds of antagonism and hatred against the "other side" are being sown for political, personal, and commercial gain, and the people are devouring and internalizing this rhetoric nearly as quickly as it can be fed to them. I think it will be not many years hence that we start to see skirmishes, attacks, and other domestic disturbances that grow out of these movements, and I believe that it will only escalate from there.

I don't appreciate this type of humor, but Estragon is correct. A programmer, especially of the startup nature, should know this fact all too well: In the real world it's not about how hard you tried, it's about results. Work smarter, not harder.

daeken 16y ago
It's not the fact that you tried that's important. It's that if you try, you have at least some chance of success; if you don't try, then failure is implied.
- loltar 16y ago
  This is only true if you try at the right things. Your goal appears to be an effort to demonetize content creation, thus disincentivizing the creation of valuable, interesting content. Your secondary goal appears to be making it easier for people who violate laws to get away with it without penalty, thus incentivizing lazy, value-stealing, criminal activity. Your goals are horrible. I'm just glad that you're horrible at pursuing them.
cookiecaper 16y ago
Not everything works that way. Some things require cooperation from more than a handful of people. You can launch a company and become very rich and successful even if only an infantesimal amount of people out there buy your product. You can't really change the political direction of a country, especially a large country like the US, without the cooperation and buy-in of a lot of people. It's not going to happen. I say that with some surety based on dogma, but I think it's also evident from an intellectual perspective that the likelihood for a rebound to good political and general philosophy is not high. Our people bear the tell-tale signs of a decaying society; the arrogance, the skewed sense of invulnerability, the ignorance and decadence that characterize civilizations on the brink of collapse. Our political landscape is becoming increasingly polarized and dangerous seeds of antagonism and hatred against the "other side" are being sown for political, personal, and commercial gain, and the people are devouring and internalizing this rhetoric nearly as quickly as it can be fed to them. I think it will be not many years hence that we start to see skirmishes, attacks, and other domestic disturbances that grow out of these movements, and I believe that it will only escalate from there.