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Not wanting to be overtly political, but this was in today's news. If those beliefs lead to trends, fertility rates might not lead to one's desired outcome if o

Not wanting to be overtly political, but this was in today's news. If those beliefs lead to trends, fertility rates might not lead to one's desired outcome if others don't believe: "According to the General Social Survey data, 41 percent of Democrats are without a steady partner, compared with only 29 percent of Republicans. Black Americans are more likely than white Americans to not have a steady partner: 51 percent vs. 32 percent, respectively." [1] https://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/It-s-not-just-you-New-data-shows-more-than-half-13706291.php https://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/It-s-not-just-you-N... I saw one of Rick's show commentaries last week and he's very specifically on a crusade of "Travel defeats ignorance"

toomuchtodo 8y ago
"In racial or ethnic terms, America’s “Baby Bust” is kinda, sorta, a little bit racist: it’s hammered Native Americans and Hispanics particularly hard, and hit even African Americans harder than whites generally, and certainly harder than non-Hispanic whites." [1] Are Republicans going to have more kids than Democrats? I have no idea, Paul Ryan has had three and says he's "doing his part" [2]. The trend downward in fertility rate across the board is still obvious. [1] https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-2-in-2018-baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-2-in-2018-baby-bust-fertil... (Number 2 in 2018: Baby Bust—Fertility is Declining the Most Among Minority Women) [2] https://www.newsweek.com/paul-ryan-wants-you-have-more-kids-749328 https://www.newsweek.com/paul-ryan-wants-you-have-more-kids-... (Paul Ryan Wants You To Have More Kids)
- magduf 8y ago
  Excuse me? Everything I've ever read shows that Hispanics are having more kids than any other demographic. They might decrease that after immigrating to the US and becoming more assimilated, but even so they still lead the pack, and non-Hispanic caucasians are projected to become a minority in 2-3 decades IIRC.
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    The data I posted is US specific. If you have data for outside the US, post it!
    - magduf 8y ago
      I'm only talking about the US. Hispanics are having way more kids here than any other group.
      - toomuchtodo 8y ago
        That is not the conclusion of objective data.
        magduf 8y ago
        Citation needed, because that appears to contradict reality and every article I've ever read.
        magduf 8y ago
        In addition to my last response, I think you're plainly lying. From: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/05/17/explaining-why-minority-births-now-outnumber-white-births/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/05/17/explaining-why-mi... "Results from the 2010 Census showed that racial and ethnic minorities accounted for 91.7% of the nation’s growth since 2000. Most of that increase from 2000 to 2010—56%—was due to Hispanics." "The changing profile of the nation’s youngest residents also stems from the fact that some groups, especially Hispanics, have higher numbers of children than do non-Hispanic whites." "Among Hispanics, the total fertility rate is 2.4. For non-Hispanic whites and for non-Hispanic Asians, it is 1.8." From: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/09/baby-boom-births.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/09/baby-boom-bir... "In 2014, blacks and Asians gave birth to almost 17 percent more children than the national average, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Hispanics gave birth to 32 percent more than the national average." So, in summary, why are you posting obvious falsehoods? There's plenty of data showing that your assertions are plainly wrong. This was all from a very quick Google search, one of them being the government's own census site. There's tons more.

toomuchtodo 8y ago

"In racial or ethnic terms, America’s “Baby Bust” is kinda, sorta, a little bit racist: it’s hammered Native Americans and Hispanics particularly hard, and hit even African Americans harder than whites generally, and certainly harder than non-Hispanic whites." [1] Are Republicans going to have more kids than Democrats? I have no idea, Paul Ryan has had three and says he's "doing his part" [2]. The trend downward in fertility rate across the board is still obvious. [1] https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-2-in-2018-baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-2-in-2018-baby-bust-fertil... (Number 2 in 2018: Baby Bust—Fertility is Declining the Most Among Minority Women) [2] https://www.newsweek.com/paul-ryan-wants-you-have-more-kids-749328 https://www.newsweek.com/paul-ryan-wants-you-have-more-kids-... (Paul Ryan Wants You To Have More Kids)

magduf 8y ago
Excuse me? Everything I've ever read shows that Hispanics are having more kids than any other demographic. They might decrease that after immigrating to the US and becoming more assimilated, but even so they still lead the pack, and non-Hispanic caucasians are projected to become a minority in 2-3 decades IIRC.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  The data I posted is US specific. If you have data for outside the US, post it!
  - magduf 8y ago
    I'm only talking about the US. Hispanics are having way more kids here than any other group.
    - toomuchtodo 8y ago
      That is not the conclusion of objective data.
      - magduf 8y ago
        Citation needed, because that appears to contradict reality and every article I've ever read.
      - magduf 8y ago
        In addition to my last response, I think you're plainly lying. From: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/05/17/explaining-why-minority-births-now-outnumber-white-births/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/05/17/explaining-why-mi... "Results from the 2010 Census showed that racial and ethnic minorities accounted for 91.7% of the nation’s growth since 2000. Most of that increase from 2000 to 2010—56%—was due to Hispanics." "The changing profile of the nation’s youngest residents also stems from the fact that some groups, especially Hispanics, have higher numbers of children than do non-Hispanic whites." "Among Hispanics, the total fertility rate is 2.4. For non-Hispanic whites and for non-Hispanic Asians, it is 1.8." From: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/09/baby-boom-births.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/09/baby-boom-bir... "In 2014, blacks and Asians gave birth to almost 17 percent more children than the national average, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Hispanics gave birth to 32 percent more than the national average." So, in summary, why are you posting obvious falsehoods? There's plenty of data showing that your assertions are plainly wrong. This was all from a very quick Google search, one of them being the government's own census site. There's tons more.