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I think a lot of the “hard working” stereotyoe of Asians in America (mostly Chinese and Koreans) come from the fact they are immigrants and start from the botto

I think a lot of the “hard working” stereotyoe of Asians in America (mostly Chinese and Koreans) come from the fact they are immigrants and start from the bottom once they get here.

magduf 8y ago
What's interesting is that Hispanic immigrants start from the bottom, yet they usually don't go very high up the social ladder, don't get an education, etc., while Asian immigrants become doctors. I wonder if anyone's done any real research on this.
- manfredo 8y ago
  This is misleading. Hispanics as a whole haven't risen very much (but are rising) because there's a consistent inflow of new immigrants. Many also also return to their home countries after making a decent chunk of money. So this gives the appearance of not being successful. Populations of Hispanics that do stay in the US for larger stretches of time have been successful. Cuban Americans, for example, have higher than average incomes and education rates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans
  - magduf 8y ago
    >Cuban Americans, for example, have higher than average incomes and education rates Compared to Asian-Americans though? Maybe I'm biased though, because I've never been to Florida which is where most of them seem to be located.
    - manfredo 8y ago
      Sure, not compared to Asian American as a whole, but having incomes over the median is a significant sign of progress. After all by definition having everyone have an above average income is an impossible goal.
- chrischen 8y ago
  Hispanics mostly just have to cross the US-Mexico border. Asians have to get across the Pacific somehow, usually through legal means with high barriers to entry, which is a great filter for the type of people that make it through to the US. Also because of the communist crackdown on the gentry, most of Chinese emigrants were the well-off people, whereas in most cases emigrants from other countries are usually the poorer or less-well off segment of their populations.
- chrischen 8y ago
  It’s extremely difficult for the “average” Asian to make their way over to the US. But trust me there are plenty of “average” Asians. They’re just stuck in Asia.
rayiner 8y ago
It’s not a stereotype. I’m Asian. “You’re being lazy” is literally the most deveststing thing my dad could’ve said to me growing up. Remember, we’re talking about a continent where a large fraction of people daily engage in back breaking subsistence farming.
- chrischen 8y ago
  Are you Asian American? My point was that making it to the USA requires hard work, privlige, or money. It selects for a certain type of Asians and developed the stereotype.

I think a lot of the “hard working” stereotyoe of Asians in America (mostly Chinese and Koreans) come from the fact they are immigrants and start from the bottom once they get here.

magduf 8y ago

What's interesting is that Hispanic immigrants start from the bottom, yet they usually don't go very high up the social ladder, don't get an education, etc., while Asian immigrants become doctors. I wonder if anyone's done any real research on this.

manfredo 8y ago
This is misleading. Hispanics as a whole haven't risen very much (but are rising) because there's a consistent inflow of new immigrants. Many also also return to their home countries after making a decent chunk of money. So this gives the appearance of not being successful. Populations of Hispanics that do stay in the US for larger stretches of time have been successful. Cuban Americans, for example, have higher than average incomes and education rates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans
- magduf 8y ago
  >Cuban Americans, for example, have higher than average incomes and education rates Compared to Asian-Americans though? Maybe I'm biased though, because I've never been to Florida which is where most of them seem to be located.
  - manfredo 8y ago
    Sure, not compared to Asian American as a whole, but having incomes over the median is a significant sign of progress. After all by definition having everyone have an above average income is an impossible goal.
chrischen 8y ago
Hispanics mostly just have to cross the US-Mexico border. Asians have to get across the Pacific somehow, usually through legal means with high barriers to entry, which is a great filter for the type of people that make it through to the US. Also because of the communist crackdown on the gentry, most of Chinese emigrants were the well-off people, whereas in most cases emigrants from other countries are usually the poorer or less-well off segment of their populations.
chrischen 8y ago
It’s extremely difficult for the “average” Asian to make their way over to the US. But trust me there are plenty of “average” Asians. They’re just stuck in Asia.

rayiner 8y ago

It’s not a stereotype. I’m Asian. “You’re being lazy” is literally the most deveststing thing my dad could’ve said to me growing up. Remember, we’re talking about a continent where a large fraction of people daily engage in back breaking subsistence farming.

chrischen 8y ago
Are you Asian American? My point was that making it to the USA requires hard work, privlige, or money. It selects for a certain type of Asians and developed the stereotype.