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In the end it’s all down to people. Elected people in government or not so elected entrepreneurs. Pick you poison. :) Violence is a consequence of many factors

In the end it’s all down to people. Elected people in government or not so elected entrepreneurs. Pick you poison. :) Violence is a consequence of many factors, and in a decent democracy having it monopolized with the governement we have elected is probably a good thing. The great thing is that we have history as a reference and I think we should use it. I’m not aiming for the extremes here, but rather life and living standard in the world and perhaps west specifically, post WW2. The numbers are there, we can see the trajectories. The numbers seem to say, pretty clearly — having a great standard of life seems to gain everyone (except for perhaps the ultra wealthy). Think about this, and give me you view: Why is the worlds most happy nations also the ones taxed the highest, and as such have the biggest government influences?

golergka 8y ago
> Elected people in government or not so elected entrepreneurs. I'll pick different entities competing with one another over a monolith. > Violence is a consequence of many factors, and in a decent democracy having it monopolized with the governement we have elected is probably a good thing. Never said it wasn't. But the entity that monopolizes it should be as small as possible. > Why is the worlds most happy nations also the ones taxed the highest, and as such have the biggest government influences? Same reason you would probably find the biggest tumors in people with the healthiest lifestyles: they would kill others at much earlier stages.
- jordanbeiber 8y ago
  I find the ”competition” argument quite interesting. From what I have experienced so far through life it looks like this supposedly healthy competition leads to variants of VW & co behaviour down the line. I see very few exceptions from my northern europe socialist bubble. When it comes to: - School - Health - Police - fire & rescue services - etc, whatever you would consider part of welfare I want the best, not a choice. ”Sir, you’re having a heart attack. Would you like the best treatment, or can we offer you this more competetive offering at a discount?”. It’s just, to me, a really odd way of viewing a society.
  - golergka 8y ago
    When you don't have a choice, any option, however bad, is best - simply by definition. It's the competition that's keeping it from stagnation.
    - jordanbeiber 8y ago
      And yet I see pretty much the opposite here in Sweden. The more we’ve privatized and NPM’ed all the things, the more it costs, and quality on the whole have suffered. It’s great for politicians that can push blame I guess... Also, a well thought out democracy is what gives options through voting. If all options are sub-par or too expensive, what’s the point?

golergka 8y ago

> Elected people in government or not so elected entrepreneurs. I'll pick different entities competing with one another over a monolith. > Violence is a consequence of many factors, and in a decent democracy having it monopolized with the governement we have elected is probably a good thing. Never said it wasn't. But the entity that monopolizes it should be as small as possible. > Why is the worlds most happy nations also the ones taxed the highest, and as such have the biggest government influences? Same reason you would probably find the biggest tumors in people with the healthiest lifestyles: they would kill others at much earlier stages.

jordanbeiber 8y ago
I find the ”competition” argument quite interesting. From what I have experienced so far through life it looks like this supposedly healthy competition leads to variants of VW & co behaviour down the line. I see very few exceptions from my northern europe socialist bubble. When it comes to: - School - Health - Police - fire & rescue services - etc, whatever you would consider part of welfare I want the best, not a choice. ”Sir, you’re having a heart attack. Would you like the best treatment, or can we offer you this more competetive offering at a discount?”. It’s just, to me, a really odd way of viewing a society.
- golergka 8y ago
  When you don't have a choice, any option, however bad, is best - simply by definition. It's the competition that's keeping it from stagnation.
  - jordanbeiber 8y ago
    And yet I see pretty much the opposite here in Sweden. The more we’ve privatized and NPM’ed all the things, the more it costs, and quality on the whole have suffered. It’s great for politicians that can push blame I guess... Also, a well thought out democracy is what gives options through voting. If all options are sub-par or too expensive, what’s the point?