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Me neither, but that effort's not visible in their rankings, because it's not even in the top 20, nevermind top 10. At the end the day it's platforms that move

by blub 8y ago

Me neither, but that effort's not visible in their rankings, because it's not even in the top 20, nevermind top 10. At the end the day it's platforms that move languages, not posting on HN and reddit. They quite brutally damned Rust with faint praise in the article: "It’s also worth noting that even if Rust never gets much beyond where it is today, it’s still ranking higher than well known languages such as the aforementioned Clojure and Groovy, as well as CoffeeScript, Dart or Visual Basic. Not bad for a systems language." Ranking higher than VB...

barking 8y ago
VB6 is still going strong. As answers to most vb6 questions are available on the web since forever, people rarely ask vb questions on stackoverflow. If you look at vbforums.com you can still have 500+ people at any time viewing the "vb6 and earlier" forum. And that's just one of many vb forums.
- blub 8y ago
  We should define "going strong"? MS basically killed it, in 200x when the VB.NET snafu happened. I assume 100% of the VB work is legacy at this point and since solid architecture or design principles were never this language's strong points, it can't be particularly exciting legacy work either. It's basically a career and technological dead-end.
  - polygotdomain 8y ago
    You could say the same about COBOL. Just because it's "dead" doesn't mean that businesses don't have tens to hundreds of thousands to even millions of lines of code hanging around in these "dead" languages. While it may not be exciting work, not every programmer is looking to do the latest and greatest thing that will appear at the top of HN. They make good money because the business knows paying someone well to maintain it is better that paying a team to rewrite it. That's why one of the issues with COBAL programmers is retiring and passing on, not leaving to go to a NodeJS shop.
    - dTal 8y ago
      Yes, and if they'd said Rust was more popular than COBOL, that would also have been damning with faint praise.
ilovecaching 8y ago
These ranking aren’t something to take very seriously. They are ballpark estimated at best, and a better measure is growth of the community and adoption in larger open source projects that people actually use.
fxfan 8y ago
Comparison with VB is a mark of respect everywhere except HN echo chamber.
- blub 8y ago
  I can only assume you're joking. VB was never respected, it had a reputation back in the day of being the tool of choice for shoddy drag & drop Windows GUI apps. On Windows C++ was the tool of choice and Delphi was kind of a secret weapon for GUI development. Then C# happened, and MS unceremoniously flushed VB down the drain. The VB community was outraged about VB.NET...

by blub 8y ago

barking 8y ago

VB6 is still going strong. As answers to most vb6 questions are available on the web since forever, people rarely ask vb questions on stackoverflow. If you look at vbforums.com you can still have 500+ people at any time viewing the "vb6 and earlier" forum. And that's just one of many vb forums.

blub 8y ago
We should define "going strong"? MS basically killed it, in 200x when the VB.NET snafu happened. I assume 100% of the VB work is legacy at this point and since solid architecture or design principles were never this language's strong points, it can't be particularly exciting legacy work either. It's basically a career and technological dead-end.
- polygotdomain 8y ago
  You could say the same about COBOL. Just because it's "dead" doesn't mean that businesses don't have tens to hundreds of thousands to even millions of lines of code hanging around in these "dead" languages. While it may not be exciting work, not every programmer is looking to do the latest and greatest thing that will appear at the top of HN. They make good money because the business knows paying someone well to maintain it is better that paying a team to rewrite it. That's why one of the issues with COBAL programmers is retiring and passing on, not leaving to go to a NodeJS shop.
  - dTal 8y ago
    Yes, and if they'd said Rust was more popular than COBOL, that would also have been damning with faint praise.

ilovecaching 8y ago

These ranking aren’t something to take very seriously. They are ballpark estimated at best, and a better measure is growth of the community and adoption in larger open source projects that people actually use.

fxfan 8y ago

Comparison with VB is a mark of respect everywhere except HN echo chamber.

blub 8y ago
I can only assume you're joking. VB was never respected, it had a reputation back in the day of being the tool of choice for shoddy drag & drop Windows GUI apps. On Windows C++ was the tool of choice and Delphi was kind of a secret weapon for GUI development. Then C# happened, and MS unceremoniously flushed VB down the drain. The VB community was outraged about VB.NET...