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Retirement at 55 and drawing a full salary until death is more than fair for the level of stress being a prison guard involves. It's dangerous work. Thank goodn
by maxehmookau 8y ago
Retirement at 55 and drawing a full salary until death is more than fair for the level of stress being a prison guard involves.
It's dangerous work.
Thank goodness for unions!
- mruts 8y agoMore than fair? Fair is what the free market decides someone should be paid. And according to google, for private prisons “fair” is a median salary of $32,000/year.
- maxehmookau 8y agoStrong unions are part of a sensible free market economy.
- mruts 8y agoWhat about unions that force dues to be paid even without membership? Are those part of a sensible free market? The Supreme Court recently overturned this, but for a long time unions just extracted monopoly rents from all employees whether they liked it or not.
- unionpivo 8y agoNot the sensible part. But still part of the free market. Just like the corporations that abuse their monopoly powers.
- unionpivo 8y agoUnions are part of free market. They optimize for benefits to their members, just as corporations optimize for benefits for their shareholders. And just as businesses who get to big can abuse their monopoly status, big unions can also have negative consequences. This is free market at work. Edit: Which is why free markets need sensible regulations, to keep abuses from happening
- metafunctor 8y agoUnions have special protection under the law, which means they are more of a regulated market than a "free market". It's government (or corrupted politics, depending on your viewpoint) all the way down, man.
- jMyles 8y ago> Thank goodness for unions! The Correctional Peace Officers Association literally advocates for terrible public policy because it is in the financial interest of their members. There is no goodness to celebrate here. This is an evil organization and in a just world it will come to a swift, peaceful, and complete end.
- maxehmookau 8y agoThat's literally the job of a union. To further the financial interest of its members.
- jMyles 8y agoEven if I agree that a public sector union has zero obligation to the public good - and I don't - I still don't think you can "thank goodness" for an organization that advocates for its financial interest of its members if that interest is bad for everyone else.
- maxehmookau 8y ago> I still don't think you can "thank goodness" for an organization that advocates for its financial interest of its members if that interest is bad for everyone else. But it's ok for every single for-profit private company to do the same thing in the interest of its shareholders? Even when the company's aims are to the detriment of society as a whole?
- jMyles 8y ago> But it's ok for every single for-profit private company to do the same thing in the interest of its shareholders? Even when the company's aims are to the detriment of society as a whole? ...wait, did I say that?
- ashelmire 8y agoSo you think Californians at large get to dictate terms to security guards? They shouldn’t get to negotiate their own terms? They get paid shit even with the union.
- kerbalspacepro 8y agoWhy does the pension have to exist? Why don't they just get a 401k and get off the books.