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So no different than leering self interested political posturing masquerading as altruistic innocuity

Tsubasachan 8y ago
This is fair. Both sides of the debate have made this ideological. The pro advertising side make it sound like it is your capitalist duty to suffer ads. No. Fuck that, I block annoyances in my life if I can. And I still buy crap don't worry.
hopler 8y ago
There's a difference between consuming products that are funded by ads, where you can just it out of the product, and add that pollute public space.
- easytiger 8y ago
  Is a shop an advert ?
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    Is a catalogue? Yes, I would say so, however it's a fundamentally less offensive, less coercive, format than billboards. I am not made to suffer the contents of a catalogue unless I opt into it. I would only open a catalogue if I've already decided that I want to see what it contains, probably because I want to purchase something that it may contain. Shops are similar to this, I don't enter a shop unless I've decided to purchase something I believe they might have. One difference is the amount of signage outside the shop, which assaults me whether or not I've decided to enter the shop. (The cover of a catalogue arguably does the same, but is much smaller and that's an important difference.) Thankfully many municipalities have taken a stand against this and have begun regulating commercial signage, if only to preserve the local aesthetic / property values. Consider the difference between Victoria and Vegas. Both have no shortage of commercial zoning. One is delightful, the other is an blight. A monument to just how bad things can be when we allow commercial interests to run rampant. Cynical, exploitative, and ugly.
    - easytiger 8y ago
      So if i want to build a shop with a self contained (non structural or otherwise regulated) frontage of my own design, you think you should have a say over that?

This is fair. Both sides of the debate have made this ideological. The pro advertising side make it sound like it is your capitalist duty to suffer ads. No. Fuck that, I block annoyances in my life if I can. And I still buy crap don't worry.

hopler 8y ago

There's a difference between consuming products that are funded by ads, where you can just it out of the product, and add that pollute public space.

easytiger 8y ago
Is a shop an advert ?
- darkpuma 8y ago
  Is a catalogue? Yes, I would say so, however it's a fundamentally less offensive, less coercive, format than billboards. I am not made to suffer the contents of a catalogue unless I opt into it. I would only open a catalogue if I've already decided that I want to see what it contains, probably because I want to purchase something that it may contain. Shops are similar to this, I don't enter a shop unless I've decided to purchase something I believe they might have. One difference is the amount of signage outside the shop, which assaults me whether or not I've decided to enter the shop. (The cover of a catalogue arguably does the same, but is much smaller and that's an important difference.) Thankfully many municipalities have taken a stand against this and have begun regulating commercial signage, if only to preserve the local aesthetic / property values. Consider the difference between Victoria and Vegas. Both have no shortage of commercial zoning. One is delightful, the other is an blight. A monument to just how bad things can be when we allow commercial interests to run rampant. Cynical, exploitative, and ugly.
  - easytiger 8y ago
    So if i want to build a shop with a self contained (non structural or otherwise regulated) frontage of my own design, you think you should have a say over that?