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The French government is very much for Articles 11 and 13, while the German govt ... can't make up their minds. One of the German coalition parties is against,

by est31 8y ago

The French government is very much for Articles 11 and 13, while the German govt ... can't make up their minds. One of the German coalition parties is against, including the justice minister, but she still voted in favour of it. Quoting this [1]: > Wenn Barley im Kabinett nicht zugestimmt hätte, hätte sich Deutschland im Kreis der EU-Staaten enthalten müssen –- dann wäre die nötige Mehrheit nicht zustande gekommen. Translated: > If Barley had not agreed in the cabinet, Germany would have had to abstain in the circle of EU states -- then the necessary majority would not have been achieved. The French government is so much for the directive that the French ambassador even tried to convince SPD party members... which is diplomatically very impolite, you don't just meddle with interior politics of another country [2]. [1]: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/EU-Copyright-Artikel-13-und-Upload-Filter-Barley-verteidigt-Ja-zur-EU-Reform-4316759.html https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/EU-Copyright-Artikel... [2]: https://netzpolitik.org/2019/frankreich-draengt-spd-abgeordnete-zu-ja-bei-der-urheberrechtsreform/ https://netzpolitik.org/2019/frankreich-draengt-spd-abgeordn...

chme 8y ago
Thx for the reply, but it doesn't really answer the question: Why is the French government so uniformly for this reform and why are there no demonstrations against this in France, while at the same time in Germany this is a pretty dividing issue. Does the French use and understand the internet differently? Do they have more trust on the government to not mess this up? Or do they currently just have different, more pressing, issues on their mind?
- dagw 8y ago
  I wonder if the fact that France, and the French government, have a very protectionist approach to their own culture factors into this. Anything that limits the power of the US to spread its 'culture' is seen as a net win.
- tsukurimashou 8y ago
  If you're talking about the people, I would say that pretty much no one here (talking about the average guy), heard about article 11 and 13
dukoid 8y ago
There were some rumors that Germany giving in here is a high level backroom deal to secure French support for the gas pipeline in the Baltic sea linking Russia and Germany (which the US are opposed to).

by est31 8y ago

chme 8y ago

Thx for the reply, but it doesn't really answer the question: Why is the French government so uniformly for this reform and why are there no demonstrations against this in France, while at the same time in Germany this is a pretty dividing issue. Does the French use and understand the internet differently? Do they have more trust on the government to not mess this up? Or do they currently just have different, more pressing, issues on their mind?

dagw 8y ago
I wonder if the fact that France, and the French government, have a very protectionist approach to their own culture factors into this. Anything that limits the power of the US to spread its 'culture' is seen as a net win.
tsukurimashou 8y ago
If you're talking about the people, I would say that pretty much no one here (talking about the average guy), heard about article 11 and 13

dukoid 8y ago

There were some rumors that Germany giving in here is a high level backroom deal to secure French support for the gas pipeline in the Baltic sea linking Russia and Germany (which the US are opposed to).