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I am reminded of a reception at the HPC User Forum back around 2002. There were a number of people in the room from various national labs and intelligence agen
by mswen 8y ago
I am reminded of a reception at the HPC User Forum back around 2002. There were a number of people in the room from various national labs and intelligence agencies. I was part of the firm that organized and hosted these meetings. I overhear a guy from NSA kidding a guy from Lawrence Livermore Labs with the following line.
"At least I don't design weapons of mass destruction, all I do is read emails"
In truth neither one of these guys did the activities stated, both really were doing system design, optimization and resource allocation with super computers so that the intelligence analysts could rapidly search billions of emails for trigger words, cryptographers could break encryption or weapons designers could model the characteristics of nuclear weapons since we were in a weapons testing ban.
But to echo your point the amount of resources available at national labs and intelligence agencies. The supercomputing resources they had available dwarfed anything available in industry or academia at the time. Today, one might argue that industry and in particular places like Google and Facebook have computing infrastructure and support that was previously only available at national labs.
So now the Google or Facebook guy in a similar meeting will be saying "I only do the analytics that enable us to target people with ads and messages to which they are most vulnerable."
- throwaaaway1231 8y agoYou say he is joking, but that person does know. I work at a research lab and at our yearly reviews, we have to day how our work directly contributes to a war fighting capacity. If that person thinks they do not contribute they are very seriously naïve or they are filling themselves. Military labs do not try to make euphemisms for what they do, they want to make sure they directly contribute to a war fighting capability.
- whatshisface 8y agoThere are varying degrees of "military lab," my favorite example being the National Ignition Facility.
- throwaaaway1231 8y agoHeh, can you say more about it? That is true. I am military and I work in a true military lab, so I probably have a different perspective
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- beambot 8y agoThe NIF has a military mission too. Straight from Wikipedia: > NIF's mission is to achieve fusion ignition with high energy gain, and to support nuclear weapon maintenance and design by studying the behavior of matter under the conditions found within nuclear weapons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility