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Just look at homicides. A dead body is somewhat impossible to hide from the statistics. Then, overlay that data with any other category of crime. Here's a googl
by matt4077 8y ago
Just look at homicides. A dead body is somewhat impossible to hide from the statistics. Then, overlay that data with any other category of crime. Here's a google image search: https://www.google.com/search?q=murder+assault+rates&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP8qbcppThAhUPyFkKHZT-B2sQ_AUIDygC&biw=1287&bih=826#imgrc=rSbHge7DGraf0M https://www.google.com/search?q=murder+assault+rates&rls=en&...:
What you will see is broad agreements of the trends, often including fluctuation in shorter terms.
Your theory would thus require (a) some evidence that the police is now somehow hiding murders, or (b) that murders fell but other crimes (even attempted murder) were somehow exempt from the trend and the police in almost any jurisdiction managed to underreport all other crimes with almost perfect accuracy to reproduce the trend in murders.
The comparisons across jurisdictions is interesting by itself: falling levels of violent crimes have been observed across a broad swath across North America, Europe, and beyond. It's somewhat unlikely that all these unrelated police forces somehow simultaneously decided to and succeeded in embarking on a corrupt campaign to falsify statistics.
If anything, the prevailing winds should have led to more crime being reported. Something like rape or assault tend to be taken more seriously these days. In cases such as Spain, one would also expect today's statistics to be more accurate than they were in the 70s, when it still was a fascist dictatorship interested in projecting an image of stability and safety.
- Judgmentality 8y ago> Just look at homicides. A dead body is somewhat impossible to hide from the statistics. Actually it's been posited before that Japan reclassifies murders as suicides in order to skew the data, and some believe other countries are doing this as well. There is a correlation between countries with low murder rates and high suicide rates. http://freakonomics.com/2009/10/29/fewer-murders-more-suicide/ http://freakonomics.com/2009/10/29/fewer-murders-more-suicid...
- Pfhreak 8y agoIs that what you believe is happening in the parent post?
- Judgmentality 8y agoI think it's one of many confounding factors that detracts from the ultimate conclusion "violent crime is down." As others have pointed out better trauma response could also be a factor in this trend. In fact, the suicide rate in the US is the highest it's been in decades. https://psmag.com/news/the-suicide-rate-is-at-its-highest-in-a-half-century https://psmag.com/news/the-suicide-rate-is-at-its-highest-in... I know at least one instance where there was a lot of controversy over the police ruling it a suicide and stopped the investigation there. Not everybody in the victim's family agreed but they decided not to challenge the police.
- 01100011 8y agoBetter trauma response would explain a lower murder rate. I have no idea if that's what is going on, but figured I'd mention it.
- Haga 8y agoOr maybe emergency services got that much better