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OK, is it just me or does the stereogram render backwards: The more distant stuff (the skyline) looks closer, while the floor and walls looks more distant? I cr

OK, is it just me or does the stereogram render backwards: The more distant stuff (the skyline) looks closer, while the floor and walls looks more distant? I cross my eyes to see these because I can’t do the “focus on the horizon” trick. Perhaps have a mode where the close/far stuff is swapped so it looks right to those of us who cross our eyes to see these.

loco5niner 8y ago
There are 2 ways to see stereograms and I it depends on how exactly you are focusing. One way is the "inverted" version you see. For me, everything appears as it should. Here's one place where this is discussed: https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicEye/comments/2u0cc1/inverted_images/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicEye/comments/2u0cc1/inverted_i...
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devrod 8y ago
It's your head. There are two ways to view the stereogram, if you are seeing a negative, try again.
- SamBam 8y ago
  It's not your head, it's whether you're using your left eye to view the left side of the image or to view the right side of the image.
sigspec 8y ago
If I cross my eyes I see it the way you describe. If I relax my eyes it goes the other way I see it correctly. It took me a while to figure out how to do this as a kid. Almost like putting my eyes into a far off daydream state.
gwbas1c 8y ago
That just means you're crossing your eyes the wrong way.
jeffwass 8y ago
What always annoyed me is why they devised these to diverge your eyes and not cross them. Crossing your eyes is much more natural, and you can easily do it by looking at something close to your face. Diverging is much harder, at least for me and most other people I’ve talked to. So I can see these by crossing my eyes but everything is inverted. It comes out as a front layer with stuff cut out of it and behind.
- ambrop7 8y ago
  I agree, and diverging gets practically impossible if the image is farther away, like on a TV screen. There is no natural scenario when one's eyes would diverge, which is what would usually be necessary in such cases.
  - WhiteSage 8y ago
    Looking at something behind the screen (if transparent) or reflected on the screen (if slightly reflective) should do the trick.
    - ambrop7 8y ago
      This only gets you there if the physical distance between the stereo images on the display is <= the distance between the eyes. If it is greater, you would need to look at something more than infinitely away / behind you (your eyes would have to diverge). In particular if the screen is already quite far away (e.g. a few meters), there's not much more far away you can focus anyway, since there's not much difference in angle between a few meters and infinity.
      - loco5niner 8y ago
        I have to admit I don't understand your argument, but in my experience: Stereograms are NOT meant to be enjoyed from across a room. It's REALLY hard to 'catch' a stereogram from far away, so why are you even trying? However, the "focusing on-or-through a transparent thing" that WhiteSage mentions works well at slightly further distances and can be used to help you figure this stuff out.

loco5niner 8y ago

There are 2 ways to see stereograms and I it depends on how exactly you are focusing. One way is the "inverted" version you see. For me, everything appears as it should. Here's one place where this is discussed: https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicEye/comments/2u0cc1/inverted_images/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicEye/comments/2u0cc1/inverted_i...

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devrod 8y ago

It's your head. There are two ways to view the stereogram, if you are seeing a negative, try again.

SamBam 8y ago
It's not your head, it's whether you're using your left eye to view the left side of the image or to view the right side of the image.

sigspec 8y ago

If I cross my eyes I see it the way you describe. If I relax my eyes it goes the other way I see it correctly. It took me a while to figure out how to do this as a kid. Almost like putting my eyes into a far off daydream state.

gwbas1c 8y ago

That just means you're crossing your eyes the wrong way.

jeffwass 8y ago

What always annoyed me is why they devised these to diverge your eyes and not cross them. Crossing your eyes is much more natural, and you can easily do it by looking at something close to your face. Diverging is much harder, at least for me and most other people I’ve talked to. So I can see these by crossing my eyes but everything is inverted. It comes out as a front layer with stuff cut out of it and behind.

ambrop7 8y ago
I agree, and diverging gets practically impossible if the image is farther away, like on a TV screen. There is no natural scenario when one's eyes would diverge, which is what would usually be necessary in such cases.
- WhiteSage 8y ago
  Looking at something behind the screen (if transparent) or reflected on the screen (if slightly reflective) should do the trick.
  - ambrop7 8y ago
    This only gets you there if the physical distance between the stereo images on the display is <= the distance between the eyes. If it is greater, you would need to look at something more than infinitely away / behind you (your eyes would have to diverge). In particular if the screen is already quite far away (e.g. a few meters), there's not much more far away you can focus anyway, since there's not much difference in angle between a few meters and infinity.
    - loco5niner 8y ago
      I have to admit I don't understand your argument, but in my experience: Stereograms are NOT meant to be enjoyed from across a room. It's REALLY hard to 'catch' a stereogram from far away, so why are you even trying? However, the "focusing on-or-through a transparent thing" that WhiteSage mentions works well at slightly further distances and can be used to help you figure this stuff out.