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PewDiePie's community is toxic and gross and represents everything that is wrong with the internet and gaming culture. This does not surprise me.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago
Also, this story should not have been flagged.
cheez 8y ago
PewDiePie has an audience of 60 million if I remember correctly. For comparison, ~120 million people voted in the US 2016 elections. If you are thinking that 60 million people are all toxic and gross and represent everything that is wrong with internet and gaming culture, with respect, you're being an extremist. Just like those in that community who are noisy enough to get your attention.
- crushcrashcrush 8y ago
  60 million people out of 350mm in the USA possessing and acting on non-progressive ideologies that are suppressive, racist, regressive and generally incompatible with life in 2019? Yes I do believe that, and a lot of people would agree with me.
  - Asooka 8y ago
    Holy shit this is such a juvenile and entitled comment. Please grow up, you're everything that's wrong with the USA.
    - crushcrashcrush 8y ago
      You sound like part of that 60MM, or 17% of the US.
      - dang 8y ago
        Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, or do flamewars on HN, again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 8y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, or do flamewars on HN, again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - cheez 8y ago
    I don't know how to respond to this type of statement. Your conclusion is drawn, anything I say will just be me being racist/regressive/generally compatible with life in 2019. Edit: I see from his profile that this fine upstanding citizen has made his identity that of crusader to right the wrongs of this world. So unlikely that any sort of discussion is possible if it conflicts with his viewpoint.
    - crushcrashcrush 8y ago
      I upvoted you, because yes, it's everyone's responsibilities to make the world a better place. I hope you find peace and compassion before it's too late.
crushcrashcrush 8y ago
Also, holy shit if this is real: “As pointed out in editorials by the New York Times and The Verge, the phrase "subscribe to PewDiePie" has become almost equivalent with dumb stunts and racially fueled declarations, and was also muttered by a gunman before embarking on a killing spree in a New Zealand mosque last week.”
- mempko 8y ago
  Yes, it's real. The terrorist said on camera "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" before murdering people. Pewdiepie followed a lot of white supremacists and alt-right on Twitter, including encouraging his fans to follow one of them. After the terrorist attack, he went into damage control and unfollowed everyone on Twitter, probably to hide the fact he had followed those kinds of people.
  - rwz 8y ago
    I hate being a Pewdiepie advocate here, but this is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. Christchurch terrorist was trying to make his attack as viral as possible and saying something like "subscribe to Pewdiepie" was the best way to create perfect shit-storm online achieving exactly this goal. PDP never expressed any views adjacent to white-supremacy or whatnot. I've been following his story for quite some time and haven't seen any proof of the opposite that could be argued in good faith. > including encouraging his fans to follow one of them This is also while technically true, only presents half of the story. PDP has made a video promoting 40+ other youtube channels with low subscribers count. One of the channels he's promoted for making a funny anime review turned out to be pushing some questionable content outside of these anime reviews. PDP cut out this part from his original video and apologized. Seems like his only fault in this situation was not doing enough research before recommending those 40+ channels. Again, I'm not a huge fan of his, but these kind of bad-faith attacks on someone who's just making funny meme videos on the internet seem very unjust and counter-productive.
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rwz 8y ago
Pewdiepie has some over 90 million followers. Judging such a huge number of people by the actions of few representatives as not too far from "all muslims are terrorists" and "all christians are pedophiles"

crushcrashcrush 8y ago

Also, this story should not have been flagged.

cheez 8y ago

PewDiePie has an audience of 60 million if I remember correctly. For comparison, ~120 million people voted in the US 2016 elections. If you are thinking that 60 million people are all toxic and gross and represent everything that is wrong with internet and gaming culture, with respect, you're being an extremist. Just like those in that community who are noisy enough to get your attention.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago
60 million people out of 350mm in the USA possessing and acting on non-progressive ideologies that are suppressive, racist, regressive and generally incompatible with life in 2019? Yes I do believe that, and a lot of people would agree with me.
- Asooka 8y ago
  Holy shit this is such a juvenile and entitled comment. Please grow up, you're everything that's wrong with the USA.
  - crushcrashcrush 8y ago
    You sound like part of that 60MM, or 17% of the US.
    - dang 8y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, or do flamewars on HN, again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 8y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, or do flamewars on HN, again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- cheez 8y ago
  I don't know how to respond to this type of statement. Your conclusion is drawn, anything I say will just be me being racist/regressive/generally compatible with life in 2019. Edit: I see from his profile that this fine upstanding citizen has made his identity that of crusader to right the wrongs of this world. So unlikely that any sort of discussion is possible if it conflicts with his viewpoint.
  - crushcrashcrush 8y ago
    I upvoted you, because yes, it's everyone's responsibilities to make the world a better place. I hope you find peace and compassion before it's too late.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago

Also, holy shit if this is real: “As pointed out in editorials by the New York Times and The Verge, the phrase "subscribe to PewDiePie" has become almost equivalent with dumb stunts and racially fueled declarations, and was also muttered by a gunman before embarking on a killing spree in a New Zealand mosque last week.”

mempko 8y ago
Yes, it's real. The terrorist said on camera "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" before murdering people. Pewdiepie followed a lot of white supremacists and alt-right on Twitter, including encouraging his fans to follow one of them. After the terrorist attack, he went into damage control and unfollowed everyone on Twitter, probably to hide the fact he had followed those kinds of people.
- rwz 8y ago
  I hate being a Pewdiepie advocate here, but this is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. Christchurch terrorist was trying to make his attack as viral as possible and saying something like "subscribe to Pewdiepie" was the best way to create perfect shit-storm online achieving exactly this goal. PDP never expressed any views adjacent to white-supremacy or whatnot. I've been following his story for quite some time and haven't seen any proof of the opposite that could be argued in good faith. > including encouraging his fans to follow one of them This is also while technically true, only presents half of the story. PDP has made a video promoting 40+ other youtube channels with low subscribers count. One of the channels he's promoted for making a funny anime review turned out to be pushing some questionable content outside of these anime reviews. PDP cut out this part from his original video and apologized. Seems like his only fault in this situation was not doing enough research before recommending those 40+ channels. Again, I'm not a huge fan of his, but these kind of bad-faith attacks on someone who's just making funny meme videos on the internet seem very unjust and counter-productive.

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rwz 8y ago

Pewdiepie has some over 90 million followers. Judging such a huge number of people by the actions of few representatives as not too far from "all muslims are terrorists" and "all christians are pedophiles"