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There is none. Felix is popular, "Subscribe to PewDiePie" is a big meme. People like to trash talk others I guess?

by zegl 8y ago

tombert 8y ago
The recent New Zealand shooter mentioned PewDiePie, and while I don't know if PewDiePie is directly racist, he was subscribed to a ton of fear-mongering idiots on Twitter until immediately after the shooting. EDIT: Just to make it clear, I'm not saying that Felix is responsible for the actions of his fan, just that it makes sense that people would latch on to the potential that he might be a douchebag.
jquery 8y ago
Pewdiepie has become clickbait. Articles written about him are typically very poor quality and poorly researched, nor do they take into account the fact he has 80+ million subscribers. That is a LOT of subscribers and if you go looking for bad behavior, you're going to find it. It's ridiculous I have to say it, but Pewdiepie is no more responsible for terrorism or white nationalism than Doom was for Columbine. In fact I'd say he's less culpable. We've been through this before with videogames, now we're going through it with memes. The older generation always thinks the younger generation is up to no good and their form of entertainment is "corrupting" them. Before videogames it was movies, and before that it was "rock and roll". And so on.
- tombert 8y ago
  Taken to the extreme, your argument could be "No one has ever influenced anyone ever for any reason". Yes, studies indicate that violent video game do not increase violence, but this doesn't inherently imply that rhetoric cannot be effective. There are plenty of examples throughout history of fear-mongering around race. Are you going to suggest that Hitler wasn't at all responsible for uniting a large percentage of the German people against the Jews? Are you going to suggest that Charles Manson shouldn't be held responsible for anything he started by his bizarre attempt at a race-war? Are you going to claim that bad behavior cannot become normalized if enough influential people do it? I don't think PewDiePie is responsible for the actions of his fans, because as you said, with 80 million people, you're going to get some awful humans in the mix. I just didn't agree with your reasoning.

There is none. Felix is popular, "Subscribe to PewDiePie" is a big meme. People like to trash talk others I guess?

by zegl 8y ago

There is none. Felix is popular, "Subscribe to PewDiePie" is a big meme. People like to trash talk others I guess?

The recent New Zealand shooter mentioned PewDiePie, and while I don't know if PewDiePie is directly racist, he was subscribed to a ton of fear-mongering idiots on Twitter until immediately after the shooting. EDIT: Just to make it clear, I'm not saying that Felix is responsible for the actions of his fan, just that it makes sense that people would latch on to the potential that he might be a douchebag.

jquery 8y ago

Pewdiepie has become clickbait. Articles written about him are typically very poor quality and poorly researched, nor do they take into account the fact he has 80+ million subscribers. That is a LOT of subscribers and if you go looking for bad behavior, you're going to find it. It's ridiculous I have to say it, but Pewdiepie is no more responsible for terrorism or white nationalism than Doom was for Columbine. In fact I'd say he's less culpable. We've been through this before with videogames, now we're going through it with memes. The older generation always thinks the younger generation is up to no good and their form of entertainment is "corrupting" them. Before videogames it was movies, and before that it was "rock and roll". And so on.

tombert 8y ago
Taken to the extreme, your argument could be "No one has ever influenced anyone ever for any reason". Yes, studies indicate that violent video game do not increase violence, but this doesn't inherently imply that rhetoric cannot be effective. There are plenty of examples throughout history of fear-mongering around race. Are you going to suggest that Hitler wasn't at all responsible for uniting a large percentage of the German people against the Jews? Are you going to suggest that Charles Manson shouldn't be held responsible for anything he started by his bizarre attempt at a race-war? Are you going to claim that bad behavior cannot become normalized if enough influential people do it? I don't think PewDiePie is responsible for the actions of his fans, because as you said, with 80 million people, you're going to get some awful humans in the mix. I just didn't agree with your reasoning.