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I don't see a huge difference between the two. Mostly the Ferengi forehead creases are sharper I guess, but unclear that the overall effect is much of an improv

I don't see a huge difference between the two. Mostly the Ferengi forehead creases are sharper I guess, but unclear that the overall effect is much of an improvement. Cool proof of concept though!

izzydata 8y ago
You need to have both full screened on a 1080p screen to actually compare the two. Also video quality is difficult to determine from still frames. Video compression is more about how it moves from 1 frame to another. You would want to watch an actual clip of both to see the difference better.
- ericsoderstrom 8y ago
  Yeah that's probably it. Was wondering whether half a screen of 1080p would be enough to properly show the difference
onli 8y ago
What? Everything is sharper in the 1080p version, the effect is far from subtle. Is it possible you did not load the 1080p version of the Youtube video?
NedIsakoff 8y ago
I honestly really don't see the difference beyond that.
- eropple 8y ago
  A lot of the CG (ships, etc.) looks sharper to my eye. I didn't notice at first, though, because YouTube defaulted to 720p (and since it's a 1080p render downscaled to be side-by-side, you do need those pixels). The creator says that 4K-vs-480p renders (that is, rendering the YouTube video at 4K) are on the way.
- QuackingJimbo 8y ago
  Same. It's certainly not objectively "amazing" (to use the author's own verbiage)
__david__ 8y ago
Yeah I made sure the video was in 1080p mode and it was mostly subtle at best. Not only that there were several places where it wasn't subtle, but the up-rezzed faces had a super fake photo-retouched/cgi look to them. They had crossed the uncanny-valley and didn't look like real humans.
- eropple 8y ago
  I thought that faces were mostly fine. The spots that didn't look right, to me, were when there was a face out-of-focus in the front of the frame (the bit where Sisko's talking to that dude). I wonder if the network recognized it was "supposed" to be out-of-focus, which it is, but then wasn't able to do any edge cleanup to make it more consistent.
- Sargos 8y ago
  > didn't look like real humans Deep Space Nine. Mission succeeded?
rhacker 8y ago
Definitely make sure you switch YouTube's AUTO setting from whatever default it has to 1080P. For a lot of scenes there is a HUGE difference.
- devrod 8y ago
  Thanks for this, I also didn't think they looked any different.
kartickv 8y ago
I agree. Resolution is 1% of what makes a TV serial. 99% is storytelling, the setting, character, drama, emotion, and so on.

I don't see a huge difference between the two. Mostly the Ferengi forehead creases are sharper I guess, but unclear that the overall effect is much of an improvement. Cool proof of concept though!

izzydata 8y ago

You need to have both full screened on a 1080p screen to actually compare the two. Also video quality is difficult to determine from still frames. Video compression is more about how it moves from 1 frame to another. You would want to watch an actual clip of both to see the difference better.

ericsoderstrom 8y ago
Yeah that's probably it. Was wondering whether half a screen of 1080p would be enough to properly show the difference

onli 8y ago

What? Everything is sharper in the 1080p version, the effect is far from subtle. Is it possible you did not load the 1080p version of the Youtube video?

NedIsakoff 8y ago

I honestly really don't see the difference beyond that.

eropple 8y ago
A lot of the CG (ships, etc.) looks sharper to my eye. I didn't notice at first, though, because YouTube defaulted to 720p (and since it's a 1080p render downscaled to be side-by-side, you do need those pixels). The creator says that 4K-vs-480p renders (that is, rendering the YouTube video at 4K) are on the way.
QuackingJimbo 8y ago
Same. It's certainly not objectively "amazing" (to use the author's own verbiage)

__david__ 8y ago

Yeah I made sure the video was in 1080p mode and it was mostly subtle at best. Not only that there were several places where it wasn't subtle, but the up-rezzed faces had a super fake photo-retouched/cgi look to them. They had crossed the uncanny-valley and didn't look like real humans.

eropple 8y ago
I thought that faces were mostly fine. The spots that didn't look right, to me, were when there was a face out-of-focus in the front of the frame (the bit where Sisko's talking to that dude). I wonder if the network recognized it was "supposed" to be out-of-focus, which it is, but then wasn't able to do any edge cleanup to make it more consistent.
Sargos 8y ago
> didn't look like real humans Deep Space Nine. Mission succeeded?

rhacker 8y ago

Definitely make sure you switch YouTube's AUTO setting from whatever default it has to 1080P. For a lot of scenes there is a HUGE difference.

devrod 8y ago
Thanks for this, I also didn't think they looked any different.

kartickv 8y ago

I agree. Resolution is 1% of what makes a TV serial. 99% is storytelling, the setting, character, drama, emotion, and so on.