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Given that they're selling this at cost, what does cloudflare get out of this?

by ebg13 8y ago

jgrahamc 8y ago
We hope you'll buy other services from us.
- thinkcomp 8y ago
  With all due respect, you make my life (and many others' lives) miserable by enabling extortion rackets, mentally ill stalker types, and hate-mongers on a daily basis. It's not a new issue for you guys and you do nothing to respond to e-mails/forms/news media until it reaches a boiling point. You petitioned the UK Government to recognize the ways in which it had harassed Alan Turing? That's wonderful. Kudos. I petition you to recognize the ways in which you are enabling--even encouraging--the harassment of thousands more. Imagine if Turing's adversaries had worn masks, no one knew where they came from, and no government was competent to investigate cross-border. That's your employer, selling the masks. If I or my family members end up dead at the hands of the convicted murderer (against whom I have a restraining order) who has been stalking me and posting vitriol on Cloudflare-enabled sites, I hope you think about your role and the news cameras show up at your front desk. Or your desk. Very much looking forward to Cloudflare's eventual bankruptcy. So no, I will not register domain names through you.
  - jacobush 8y ago
    How?
  - slondr 8y ago
    What?
    - megous 8y ago
      Presumably by hiding the origin server. But that can be done by other technologies too, so it's not unique to CF. But I'd like more details from thinkcomp.
      - thinkcomp 8y ago
        Correct. One example of literally thousands: https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-this-website-and-all-the-cheater-websites/ https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-... "Protected" by Cloudflare against "attack." See also https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-of-california-county-of-santa-clara/greenspan-v-masmarques/ https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-o.... See also https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1793854053 https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1.... See also https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-cloudflare-storing-extreme-neo-nazi-content-on-uk-soil https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-clou....
  - spurgu 8y ago
    What?
voidlogic 8y ago
Power. Soon CF will be completely pervasive. CDN? Certs? DNS? Registrar? The are playing the long game for the win.
brightball 8y ago
In the short term, a large user base until they're ready to raise the price.
dazc 8y ago
Once you become a paying customer of Cloudflare you will understand. An extra $5 for this and that soon adds up.

Given that they're selling this at cost, what does cloudflare get out of this?

by ebg13 8y ago

Given that they're selling this at cost, what does cloudflare get out of this?

jgrahamc 8y ago

We hope you'll buy other services from us.

thinkcomp 8y ago
With all due respect, you make my life (and many others' lives) miserable by enabling extortion rackets, mentally ill stalker types, and hate-mongers on a daily basis. It's not a new issue for you guys and you do nothing to respond to e-mails/forms/news media until it reaches a boiling point. You petitioned the UK Government to recognize the ways in which it had harassed Alan Turing? That's wonderful. Kudos. I petition you to recognize the ways in which you are enabling--even encouraging--the harassment of thousands more. Imagine if Turing's adversaries had worn masks, no one knew where they came from, and no government was competent to investigate cross-border. That's your employer, selling the masks. If I or my family members end up dead at the hands of the convicted murderer (against whom I have a restraining order) who has been stalking me and posting vitriol on Cloudflare-enabled sites, I hope you think about your role and the news cameras show up at your front desk. Or your desk. Very much looking forward to Cloudflare's eventual bankruptcy. So no, I will not register domain names through you.
- jacobush 8y ago
  How?
- slondr 8y ago
  What?
  - megous 8y ago
    Presumably by hiding the origin server. But that can be done by other technologies too, so it's not unique to CF. But I'd like more details from thinkcomp.
    - thinkcomp 8y ago
      Correct. One example of literally thousands: https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-this-website-and-all-the-cheater-websites/ https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-... "Protected" by Cloudflare against "attack." See also https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-of-california-county-of-santa-clara/greenspan-v-masmarques/ https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-o.... See also https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1793854053 https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1.... See also https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-cloudflare-storing-extreme-neo-nazi-content-on-uk-soil https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-clou....
- spurgu 8y ago
  What?

voidlogic 8y ago

Power. Soon CF will be completely pervasive. CDN? Certs? DNS? Registrar? The are playing the long game for the win.

brightball 8y ago

In the short term, a large user base until they're ready to raise the price.

dazc 8y ago

Once you become a paying customer of Cloudflare you will understand. An extra $5 for this and that soon adds up.