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Isn't that exactly what the shooter wanted? They're playing right into his hands. They skipped the step where you negotiate with the terrorists and went strai

Isn't that exactly what the shooter wanted? They're playing right into his hands. They skipped the step where you negotiate with the terrorists and went straight to accepting his demands. I guess that doesn't matter when you need to be seen doing something. Edit: I mean that the shooter wanted NZ gun control as a means to the end he seeks. Not that it is the end he seeks.

janpot 8y ago
you think the shooter's intentions were to advocate for stricter gun laws?
- modest_sarcasm 8y ago
  1. Outlaw guns in New Zealand 2. Outlaw guns in the US 3. Race War 2020 4. ???? 5. Profit Pretty much the TLDR of this guy's manifesto.
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- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  His plan can loosely be described as "shoot people in NZ --> NZ gun control --> US gun control --> 1776 Pt2 Electric Boogaloo --> White supremacist victory --> Europe follows suit." Boogaloo in the US seems iffy because any gun control measures strong enough to touch it off would probably be a non-starter because if there's a civil war brewing (let alone a racially charged one) the people that make up the base of the party that usually pushes gun control would very much want to be armed. Boogaloo resulting in some sort of white supremacist victory is laughable. Europe copying either is just fantasy. The fact that the NZ politicians are doing exactly what a terrorist asked for is what annoys me most here.
modest_sarcasm 8y ago
Perpetrator: "Joke's on you guys, I wanted to go to jail for the rest of my life!" Judge: "Your wish shall be denied. Release this man!"
mcphage 8y ago
> Isn't that exactly what the shooter wanted? The shooter left a long manifesto. It contained quite a bit about white nationalism, but you’re the first person to suggest that it was secretly about gun control.
- LyndsySimon 8y ago
  Have you read it? He specifically says that he chose firearms in hopes that it would cause gun control to be passed in the US, which he believes would cause enough internal strife to reduce or eliminate the role of the US in international conflict.

janpot 8y ago

you think the shooter's intentions were to advocate for stricter gun laws?

modest_sarcasm 8y ago
1. Outlaw guns in New Zealand 2. Outlaw guns in the US 3. Race War 2020 4. ???? 5. Profit Pretty much the TLDR of this guy's manifesto.
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dsfyu404ed 8y ago
His plan can loosely be described as "shoot people in NZ --> NZ gun control --> US gun control --> 1776 Pt2 Electric Boogaloo --> White supremacist victory --> Europe follows suit." Boogaloo in the US seems iffy because any gun control measures strong enough to touch it off would probably be a non-starter because if there's a civil war brewing (let alone a racially charged one) the people that make up the base of the party that usually pushes gun control would very much want to be armed. Boogaloo resulting in some sort of white supremacist victory is laughable. Europe copying either is just fantasy. The fact that the NZ politicians are doing exactly what a terrorist asked for is what annoys me most here.

modest_sarcasm 8y ago

Perpetrator: "Joke's on you guys, I wanted to go to jail for the rest of my life!" Judge: "Your wish shall be denied. Release this man!"

mcphage 8y ago

> Isn't that exactly what the shooter wanted? The shooter left a long manifesto. It contained quite a bit about white nationalism, but you’re the first person to suggest that it was secretly about gun control.

LyndsySimon 8y ago
Have you read it? He specifically says that he chose firearms in hopes that it would cause gun control to be passed in the US, which he believes would cause enough internal strife to reduce or eliminate the role of the US in international conflict.