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Why they disagree with censorship? Its a great firewall with the enforcement being pushed to every last person running a website. Its a totalitarian grasp for t

by cf498 8y ago

Why they disagree with censorship? Its a great firewall with the enforcement being pushed to every last person running a website. Its a totalitarian grasp for the control of the internet as a whole. The protection fee for publishing houses is just an added bonus for a few corrupt institutions on their deathbed.

austincheney 8y ago
Is enforcing copyright censorship? I am not being antagonistic as I have actually no idea what is in this new law.
- DanBC 8y ago
  Copy right law normally have exemptions for things like fair use or fair dealing or for research. Article 13 includes those exemptions. Publishers like YouTube can't cope with those exemptions and have implemented a baffling system where copyright material is either: - freely available and monetised to the uploader not the rights holder - freely available and monetised to the person claiming to be the rights holder (they may not be the rights holder) -available with restrictions ("not available in this country") - blocked completely, with copyright strikes against the uploader, even if the upload carefully obeys copyright laws. This is mostly a problem with lazy publishers, but complex and inconsistent international laws don't make it easy.
- koonsolo 8y ago
  Let me give you a clear example. Look at this: Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never—, Neverland Now I lay me down to sleep Pray the Lord my soul to keep If I die before I wake Pray the Lord my soul to take These are the lyrics of Metallica "Enter Sandman". YCombinator can now get sued because they didn't filter out my post. They unlawfully published copyrighted material. Without this law, I would be liable. With this law, YCombinator is liable too.
  - jaifraic 8y ago
    This is false. A13 Chapter 5[1] explicitly allows posts like yours: The cooperation between online content service providers and rightholders shall not result in the prevention of the availability of works or other subject matter uploaded by users which do not infringe copyright and related rights, including where such works or subject matter are covered by an exception or limitation. Member States shall ensure that users in all Member States are able to rely on the following existing exceptions and limitations when uploading and making available content generated by users on online content sharing services: a) quotation, criticism, review, b) use for the purpose of caricature, parody or pastiche. It would however forbid you to post that lyrics without any commentary or some sort of relection. [1]: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unofficial.pdf https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unoff...
    - scarejunba 8y ago
      Here are the lyrics to Enter Sandman by Metallica: Say your prayers, little one Don't forget, my son To include everyone I tuck you in, warm within Keep you free from sin Until the sandman he comes [Pre-Chorus] Sleep with one eye open Gripping your pillow tight [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to never never-land [Verse 2] Something's wrong, shut the light Heavy thoughts tonight And they aren't of Snow White Dreams of war Dreams of liars Dreams of dragons fire And of things that will bite, yeah [Pre-Chorus] Sleep with one eye open Gripping your pillow tight [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never Never-land [Guitar Solo] [Interlude] Now I lay me down to sleep (Now I lay me down to sleep) Pray the lord my soul to keep (Pray the lord my soul to keep) And If I die before I wake (If I die before I wake) Pray the lord my soul to take (Pray the lord my soul to take) [Bridge] Hush, little baby, don't say a word And never mind that noise you heard It's just the beast under your bed In your closet, in your head [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Grain of sand Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never Never-land [Interlude] Come on people Hey yeah, oh oh yeah [Outro] We're off to never never-land Take my hand We're off to never never-land Take my hand We're off to never never-land

by cf498 8y ago

austincheney 8y ago

Is enforcing copyright censorship? I am not being antagonistic as I have actually no idea what is in this new law.

DanBC 8y ago
Copy right law normally have exemptions for things like fair use or fair dealing or for research. Article 13 includes those exemptions. Publishers like YouTube can't cope with those exemptions and have implemented a baffling system where copyright material is either: - freely available and monetised to the uploader not the rights holder - freely available and monetised to the person claiming to be the rights holder (they may not be the rights holder) -available with restrictions ("not available in this country") - blocked completely, with copyright strikes against the uploader, even if the upload carefully obeys copyright laws. This is mostly a problem with lazy publishers, but complex and inconsistent international laws don't make it easy.
koonsolo 8y ago
Let me give you a clear example. Look at this: Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never—, Neverland Now I lay me down to sleep Pray the Lord my soul to keep If I die before I wake Pray the Lord my soul to take These are the lyrics of Metallica "Enter Sandman". YCombinator can now get sued because they didn't filter out my post. They unlawfully published copyrighted material. Without this law, I would be liable. With this law, YCombinator is liable too.
- jaifraic 8y ago
  This is false. A13 Chapter 5[1] explicitly allows posts like yours: The cooperation between online content service providers and rightholders shall not result in the prevention of the availability of works or other subject matter uploaded by users which do not infringe copyright and related rights, including where such works or subject matter are covered by an exception or limitation. Member States shall ensure that users in all Member States are able to rely on the following existing exceptions and limitations when uploading and making available content generated by users on online content sharing services: a) quotation, criticism, review, b) use for the purpose of caricature, parody or pastiche. It would however forbid you to post that lyrics without any commentary or some sort of relection. [1]: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unofficial.pdf https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unoff...
  - scarejunba 8y ago
    Here are the lyrics to Enter Sandman by Metallica: Say your prayers, little one Don't forget, my son To include everyone I tuck you in, warm within Keep you free from sin Until the sandman he comes [Pre-Chorus] Sleep with one eye open Gripping your pillow tight [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to never never-land [Verse 2] Something's wrong, shut the light Heavy thoughts tonight And they aren't of Snow White Dreams of war Dreams of liars Dreams of dragons fire And of things that will bite, yeah [Pre-Chorus] Sleep with one eye open Gripping your pillow tight [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never Never-land [Guitar Solo] [Interlude] Now I lay me down to sleep (Now I lay me down to sleep) Pray the lord my soul to keep (Pray the lord my soul to keep) And If I die before I wake (If I die before I wake) Pray the lord my soul to take (Pray the lord my soul to take) [Bridge] Hush, little baby, don't say a word And never mind that noise you heard It's just the beast under your bed In your closet, in your head [Chorus] Exit light Enter night Grain of sand Exit light Enter night Take my hand We're off to Never Never-land [Interlude] Come on people Hey yeah, oh oh yeah [Outro] We're off to never never-land Take my hand We're off to never never-land Take my hand We're off to never never-land