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Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

26 points by yeutterg 8y ago

baddhidurgarao 8y ago
dyson lightcycle task lamp is good product.
- deleted 8y ago
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- kondajaffa 8y ago
  yes
- hiven 8y ago
  It really is not. It’s insultingly expensive and all that overengineering offers no real world value. Don’t get sucked in.
aidenn0 8y ago
Yet another expensive over-engineered product from Dyson.
keyle 8y ago
That's great, but who wants to pay that much to have the same light for 60 years? One "advantage" of consumerism is cheap = changeable The sad part of modern technology is that you can't fix it yourself, nor do you understand how it works. It doesn't make you any smarter. That said, having a luxury product that last 60 years is a very niche market.
- doe88 8y ago
  > That's great, but who wants to pay that much to have the same light for 60 years? This. Technologies evolve/improve so fast, you don't want to be stuck with them forever anyway.
  - oeuviz 8y ago
    My coffee maker is from 1972 which makes it more than a decade older than the user. So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. But then again, how many years could it be operational when depending on an app.
    - submeta 8y ago
      Curious: What kind / brand is it?
      - michaelt 8y ago
        I once had a really good 40-year-old washing machine at a place I rented. Later, when I needed a washing machine of my own I looked up that top-quality brand and discovered in the intervening time they'd been brought by one of the bottom-quality brands, replaced their entire product lineup, moved their manufacturing abroad, and most likely replaced every employee too.
      - oeuviz 8y ago
        An Olympia Cremina and Maximatic.
    - kbenson 8y ago
      > So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. There's a whole subreddit devoted to it, /r/buyitforlife.[1] I guess that's not much of a claim, since there's a subreddit for everything, but this one is kinda neat. :) That said, I think what a lot of people take issue with on Dyson devices is the extreme price premium which isn't really required most the time to achieve the advertised level of quality. 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/
- rdc12 8y ago
  The downside to cheap and changeable, is it creates products that are disposable which contributes to a tonne of waste. I do miss having items that when they break, I could pull apart and repair too.
- abtinf 8y ago
  > 60 years Yet they only provide a 5 year warranty. I would expect a $600 desk lamp to have at a lifetime warranty. And they couldn’t even be bothered to get the warranty details right: at the top of the page, it says parts and labor, but at the bottom it says parts only.
- cma 8y ago
  You pay to signal that you can buy and throw away something marketed to be a 60 year product.
dreamcompiler 8y ago
Not sure about the point of this. Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea, but a light that matches my local sun cycle would be useless: At night (when I actually need it) it would be off. Clearly I'm missing something.
- achow 8y ago
  > Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea.. Even that is not. ...water cooling process works by condensation. As the processor heats up, the liquid essentially vaporizes, keeping the CPU cool. The vapor then travels to the opposite end of the of the heat pipe, where it condenses back into liquid when cooled off. 2016. Samsung Galaxy S7 https://www.howtogeek.com/365535/how-does-water-cooling-work-in-a-phone/ https://www.howtogeek.com/365535/how-does-water-cooling-work...
  - Animats 8y ago
    I have a Shuttle PC from 2003 with heat pipe cooling. For about 10 years, they made machines with a heat pipe system to transfer heat from the CPU chip surface to a finned plate at the back of the box behind the fan, allowing a more compact package. But for an LED? Come on. The cutting edge technology in LED lighting is to use power supplies that don't need electrolytic capacitors. The capacitor usually fails long before the LED.
  - ghusbands 8y ago
    > > Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea.. > Even that is not. Did you mean to claim that a heat pipe is not reasonable? (the rest of your comment doesn't make your point clear)
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > but a light that matches my local sun cycle would be useless: At night (when I actually need it) it would be off. The daylight cycle matching (and the manual tuning) varies color temp between 2700K and 6500K; it doesn't (at least, in any of the description) vary light level. It's basically the same concept (but more localized) as f.lux for desktop screens.
sdan 8y ago
$500 for a lamp... I'm out of words. I don't care how much tech you put into it, at the end of the day, it's not going to be tremendously better than a lightbulb hanging over your desk for $5~10.
- purplezooey 8y ago
  said every dude walking through Restoration Hardware
abtinf 8y ago
This is crazy expensive for a desk lamp, but I can imagine applications that would justify expensive lighting. I’d happily pay 10-20x premium for guaranteed ultra-long life bulbs to use in built-in home fixtures—especially difficult-to-reach locations.
- askvictor 8y ago
  Except that the guarantee here is only for 5 years :-/
goldenshale 8y ago
For that much you would think it would also be a piece of art to improve the space in which it sits. This looks more like an erector set component.
sizzzzlerz 8y ago
For that kind of money, it not only needs to light my desk, it better damn well make a perfect martini!
nickloewen 8y ago
This has some very appealing aspects—I'm particularly intrigued by the stand design—but I'm mystified by the idea that a lamp designed to last six decades apparently requires an app to operate many of it's key features. Sixty years ago there was, as far as I can tell, one significant digital network in the world[0], and the smallest computers weren't desktops--they were desks.[1] It seems all but impossible that Dyson's app is still going to be available and functional for more than maybe a decade of this lamp's projected lifespan. Computer technology just evolves too fast. I would really appreciate if $600+ appliances would include in the box everything that they need to operate to the best of their capabilities, so that we don't end up with lamps stuck in alarm clock mode when Dyson doesn't upgrade their app to work with iOS 16. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Automatic_Ground_Environment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Automatic_Ground_Environm... [1]: eg https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mainframe-computers/7/166/664 https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mainframe-compute...
- baroffoos 8y ago
  Devices that require apps to use are infuriating. I recently got a bose soundbar and subwoofer and the instructions tell you to install the app so you can connect the subwoofer to the soundbar. I don't have any devices that can run the bose app... I eventually found out if you use an AUX cable (not included) you can connect the two devices together without an app.
  - BFLpL0QNek 8y ago
    It is infuriating. Read the terms and conditions/privacy policy for the apps! For a soundbar, that sits in my living room to produce sound from a television, maybe stream music to it via Bluetooth or listen to online radio why does it need to send analytical data home! I run my own local DNS server with blocklists with one domain being metrics.bose.com. No way am I buying the newer models with built-in microphones. Likewise, I have the soundtouch on it's own IoT of crap VLAN which has very restrictive firewall rules. I had to jump through several hoops to get this to work so I can control it from my phone which is on a trusted VLAN. This should be straight forward enough using avahi mDNS reflector and igmpproxy however Bose says the Soundtouch does not support cross VLAN https://community.bose.com/t5/SoundTouch-Archive/SoundTouch-300-app-connection-issue-after-update-to-19-x/td-p/127886 https://community.bose.com/t5/SoundTouch-Archive/SoundTouch-.... That's not completely true, by default it does support it as it is just standard networking with unroutable requests being past to the default gateway however Bose have gone out of there way and done extra work to explicitly block traffic from a different subnet the soundbar is on, probably as a cheap way of securing the device for people who leave their internet routers wide open. The proper solution would have been for Bose to provide some authentication mechanism between the app and soundbar. Luckily it's easy to work around with NAT / IP masquerading. Even with this, I've had the app switch the soundbar from it's IoT wifi SSID to the trusted wifi SSID on one occasion. I'm not sure how or why but I'll be monitoring it. I'm going to actively avoid IoT devices now on, the general implementation seems to be substandard, end-of-life will generally be the end of app updates instead of the device physically breaking. Sonos have already done this by essentially changing the terms and conditions for users with existing devices and users not agreeing have their devices essentially become bricks https://www.zdnet.com/article/sonos-accept-new-privacy-policy-speakers-cease-to-function/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/sonos-accept-new-privacy-polic....
javadocmd 8y ago
As someone with a basic understanding of thermodynamics, I'm highly offended by the assertion that their cooling technology is "energy free".
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hiven 8y ago
God these products are terrible. All that added cost to protect some budget LEDs from burnout or discolour. They cost next to nothing. There is no innovation in this product.
NeedMoreTea 8y ago
Whereas an Anglepoise lamp actually will last 60 years. Many already have. It's too early to know if their LED variant will. Dyson had one decent idea that everyone else adopted too - cyclones instead of bags. Everything else seems to require paying 10x what a sane premium and expensive cost might be - lamps, hair dryers, fan heaters. The innovation is making it appear complex enough to justify the absurd price. I bet they are still using too much ABS plastic that'll be disintegrating after 5 years.
- jakobegger 8y ago
  High quality desk lamps often cost 500€ to 1000€. There's nothing absurd about the price, if these are actually high quality lamps.
  - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
    lol no. Anglepoise were just about top of the market when we bought one about ten years ago. Paid about £90-£100. A quick search shows about 10% more now. A genuine antique can run higher, especially if with Tiffany shades, original 20s bankers lamps etc. I'm sure there's one or two others selling emperor's new clothes at absurd prices like Dyson too -- that's very far from "often".
- DaiPlusPlus 8y ago
  Their contra-rotating drum washing machine was innovative but they pulled it from the market. Innovative ideas don’t necessarily having staying-power either.
  - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
    True, I'd forgotten that one. The same explosion in a paint factory ABS everywhere looks as the vacuums meant it wasn't a permitted option for our house. :) They updated those that were sold to disable the contra-rotating. No idea why.
- ianhowson 8y ago
  I got my wife the hair dryer and I'm genuinely impressed with it. It weighs nothing, uses proper PID control for heat and fan, heats up and cools fast and just feels good. The device stays cool while heating the air and it blows a lot of air while making hardly any noise. In short, I can't imagine a more perfect hair dryer. Sadly, I am bald and do not get to use it. I did spend a while gushing about how neat it was, though.
fifteenforty 8y ago
You could buy a BenQ WiT for $180. Vastly more practical for most nerds, cheaper and has a replaceable DC transformer. The name isn’t as sexy though! https://www.benq.com/en/lighting/e-reading-lamp/wit.html https://www.benq.com/en/lighting/e-reading-lamp/wit.html
masklinn 8y ago
> Heat Pipe cooling technology. […] Dyson engineers addressed this with technology often used in satellites. Or in many/most CPU and GPU heatsinks for the last decade or so, both Intel and AMD have heatpipe-based stock coolers in their range. There are heatpipe-based heatsinks available for $10~15.
- Phrodo_00 8y ago
  Yeah, this also jumped at me. I think that when copy writters make that kind of claim it really hurts the credibility of the entire copy, and you start to wonder where else they're exaggerating.
- ianhowson 8y ago
  It's novel for an LED lamp, though. Most manufacturers just put a heatsink on the back. It's ugly. If you're going for the best possible LED lamp, irrespective of cost, I can't think of a better cooling method.
  - masklinn 8y ago
    > It's novel for an LED lamp, though. Kinda? It already exists, but usually to better spread heat to the sink in high-power LED lamps (50W+, not equivalent, actual). And my point is outlining that it's "satellite technology" is complete bullshit marketing copy. I would expect more or less every laptop with fans[0] to use heatpipes, even for gaming / workstation laptops it hasn't made sense to stick a radiator on the CPU/GPU in a long time. [0] apparently fanless devices don't, I guess there wouldn't be enough of a heat differential between the CPU and a hypothetical heatspreader for it to work?
    - bayindirh 8y ago
      > And my point is outlining that it's "satellite technology" is complete bullshit marketing copy. Actually, I have a friend who works at a company which designs extreme heat pipes and heat wicks for satellite applications. He has a satellite-spec heat pipe specimen which he shows around with heat-sensitive paint to demonstrate heat transfer speed, and it's way faster than conventional heat pipes. It's almost instant. Don't know the secret sauce though.
EngineerBetter 8y ago
Wow, it takes something to make Philips Hue look cheap. I'll stick to those, which I can fill several rooms with for the same price.
ctack 8y ago
A couple fo years ago someone figured out how to recreate sunlight. I can't wait for that to take off and was hoping this might be the start. I think this is them https://www.coelux.com https://www.coelux.com
- ctack 8y ago
  Wow, looking at it now and they're orders of magnitude more expensive than the already expensive Dyson lamps.
KentGeek 8y ago
Personally, I'm done with Dyson. James was a vocal supporter of Brexit, gets what he wants, then decides to move his company's HQ to Singapore. That kind of blatant hypocrisy taints their products for me.

26 points by yeutterg 8y ago

baddhidurgarao 8y ago

dyson lightcycle task lamp is good product.

deleted 8y ago
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kondajaffa 8y ago
yes
hiven 8y ago
It really is not. It’s insultingly expensive and all that overengineering offers no real world value. Don’t get sucked in.

aidenn0 8y ago

Yet another expensive over-engineered product from Dyson.

keyle 8y ago

That's great, but who wants to pay that much to have the same light for 60 years? One "advantage" of consumerism is cheap = changeable The sad part of modern technology is that you can't fix it yourself, nor do you understand how it works. It doesn't make you any smarter. That said, having a luxury product that last 60 years is a very niche market.

doe88 8y ago
> That's great, but who wants to pay that much to have the same light for 60 years? This. Technologies evolve/improve so fast, you don't want to be stuck with them forever anyway.
- oeuviz 8y ago
  My coffee maker is from 1972 which makes it more than a decade older than the user. So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. But then again, how many years could it be operational when depending on an app.
  - submeta 8y ago
    Curious: What kind / brand is it?
    - michaelt 8y ago
      I once had a really good 40-year-old washing machine at a place I rented. Later, when I needed a washing machine of my own I looked up that top-quality brand and discovered in the intervening time they'd been brought by one of the bottom-quality brands, replaced their entire product lineup, moved their manufacturing abroad, and most likely replaced every employee too.
    - oeuviz 8y ago
      An Olympia Cremina and Maximatic.
  - kbenson 8y ago
    > So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. There's a whole subreddit devoted to it, /r/buyitforlife.[1] I guess that's not much of a claim, since there's a subreddit for everything, but this one is kinda neat. :) That said, I think what a lot of people take issue with on Dyson devices is the extreme price premium which isn't really required most the time to achieve the advertised level of quality. 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/
rdc12 8y ago
The downside to cheap and changeable, is it creates products that are disposable which contributes to a tonne of waste. I do miss having items that when they break, I could pull apart and repair too.
abtinf 8y ago
> 60 years Yet they only provide a 5 year warranty. I would expect a $600 desk lamp to have at a lifetime warranty. And they couldn’t even be bothered to get the warranty details right: at the top of the page, it says parts and labor, but at the bottom it says parts only.
cma 8y ago
You pay to signal that you can buy and throw away something marketed to be a 60 year product.

dreamcompiler 8y ago

Not sure about the point of this. Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea, but a light that matches my local sun cycle would be useless: At night (when I actually need it) it would be off. Clearly I'm missing something.

achow 8y ago
> Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea.. Even that is not. ...water cooling process works by condensation. As the processor heats up, the liquid essentially vaporizes, keeping the CPU cool. The vapor then travels to the opposite end of the of the heat pipe, where it condenses back into liquid when cooled off. 2016. Samsung Galaxy S7 https://www.howtogeek.com/365535/how-does-water-cooling-work-in-a-phone/ https://www.howtogeek.com/365535/how-does-water-cooling-work...
- Animats 8y ago
  I have a Shuttle PC from 2003 with heat pipe cooling. For about 10 years, they made machines with a heat pipe system to transfer heat from the CPU chip surface to a finned plate at the back of the box behind the fan, allowing a more compact package. But for an LED? Come on. The cutting edge technology in LED lighting is to use power supplies that don't need electrolytic capacitors. The capacitor usually fails long before the LED.
- ghusbands 8y ago
  > > Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea.. > Even that is not. Did you mean to claim that a heat pipe is not reasonable? (the rest of your comment doesn't make your point clear)
dragonwriter 8y ago
> but a light that matches my local sun cycle would be useless: At night (when I actually need it) it would be off. The daylight cycle matching (and the manual tuning) varies color temp between 2700K and 6500K; it doesn't (at least, in any of the description) vary light level. It's basically the same concept (but more localized) as f.lux for desktop screens.

sdan 8y ago

$500 for a lamp... I'm out of words. I don't care how much tech you put into it, at the end of the day, it's not going to be tremendously better than a lightbulb hanging over your desk for $5~10.

purplezooey 8y ago
said every dude walking through Restoration Hardware

abtinf 8y ago

This is crazy expensive for a desk lamp, but I can imagine applications that would justify expensive lighting. I’d happily pay 10-20x premium for guaranteed ultra-long life bulbs to use in built-in home fixtures—especially difficult-to-reach locations.

askvictor 8y ago
Except that the guarantee here is only for 5 years :-/

goldenshale 8y ago

For that much you would think it would also be a piece of art to improve the space in which it sits. This looks more like an erector set component.

sizzzzlerz 8y ago

For that kind of money, it not only needs to light my desk, it better damn well make a perfect martini!

nickloewen 8y ago

This has some very appealing aspects—I'm particularly intrigued by the stand design—but I'm mystified by the idea that a lamp designed to last six decades apparently requires an app to operate many of it's key features. Sixty years ago there was, as far as I can tell, one significant digital network in the world[0], and the smallest computers weren't desktops--they were desks.[1] It seems all but impossible that Dyson's app is still going to be available and functional for more than maybe a decade of this lamp's projected lifespan. Computer technology just evolves too fast. I would really appreciate if $600+ appliances would include in the box everything that they need to operate to the best of their capabilities, so that we don't end up with lamps stuck in alarm clock mode when Dyson doesn't upgrade their app to work with iOS 16. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Automatic_Ground_Environment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Automatic_Ground_Environm... [1]: eg https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mainframe-computers/7/166/664 https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mainframe-compute...

baroffoos 8y ago
Devices that require apps to use are infuriating. I recently got a bose soundbar and subwoofer and the instructions tell you to install the app so you can connect the subwoofer to the soundbar. I don't have any devices that can run the bose app... I eventually found out if you use an AUX cable (not included) you can connect the two devices together without an app.
- BFLpL0QNek 8y ago
  It is infuriating. Read the terms and conditions/privacy policy for the apps! For a soundbar, that sits in my living room to produce sound from a television, maybe stream music to it via Bluetooth or listen to online radio why does it need to send analytical data home! I run my own local DNS server with blocklists with one domain being metrics.bose.com. No way am I buying the newer models with built-in microphones. Likewise, I have the soundtouch on it's own IoT of crap VLAN which has very restrictive firewall rules. I had to jump through several hoops to get this to work so I can control it from my phone which is on a trusted VLAN. This should be straight forward enough using avahi mDNS reflector and igmpproxy however Bose says the Soundtouch does not support cross VLAN https://community.bose.com/t5/SoundTouch-Archive/SoundTouch-300-app-connection-issue-after-update-to-19-x/td-p/127886 https://community.bose.com/t5/SoundTouch-Archive/SoundTouch-.... That's not completely true, by default it does support it as it is just standard networking with unroutable requests being past to the default gateway however Bose have gone out of there way and done extra work to explicitly block traffic from a different subnet the soundbar is on, probably as a cheap way of securing the device for people who leave their internet routers wide open. The proper solution would have been for Bose to provide some authentication mechanism between the app and soundbar. Luckily it's easy to work around with NAT / IP masquerading. Even with this, I've had the app switch the soundbar from it's IoT wifi SSID to the trusted wifi SSID on one occasion. I'm not sure how or why but I'll be monitoring it. I'm going to actively avoid IoT devices now on, the general implementation seems to be substandard, end-of-life will generally be the end of app updates instead of the device physically breaking. Sonos have already done this by essentially changing the terms and conditions for users with existing devices and users not agreeing have their devices essentially become bricks https://www.zdnet.com/article/sonos-accept-new-privacy-policy-speakers-cease-to-function/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/sonos-accept-new-privacy-polic....

javadocmd 8y ago

As someone with a basic understanding of thermodynamics, I'm highly offended by the assertion that their cooling technology is "energy free".

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hiven 8y ago

God these products are terrible. All that added cost to protect some budget LEDs from burnout or discolour. They cost next to nothing. There is no innovation in this product.

NeedMoreTea 8y ago

Whereas an Anglepoise lamp actually will last 60 years. Many already have. It's too early to know if their LED variant will. Dyson had one decent idea that everyone else adopted too - cyclones instead of bags. Everything else seems to require paying 10x what a sane premium and expensive cost might be - lamps, hair dryers, fan heaters. The innovation is making it appear complex enough to justify the absurd price. I bet they are still using too much ABS plastic that'll be disintegrating after 5 years.

jakobegger 8y ago
High quality desk lamps often cost 500€ to 1000€. There's nothing absurd about the price, if these are actually high quality lamps.
- NeedMoreTea 8y ago
  lol no. Anglepoise were just about top of the market when we bought one about ten years ago. Paid about £90-£100. A quick search shows about 10% more now. A genuine antique can run higher, especially if with Tiffany shades, original 20s bankers lamps etc. I'm sure there's one or two others selling emperor's new clothes at absurd prices like Dyson too -- that's very far from "often".
DaiPlusPlus 8y ago
Their contra-rotating drum washing machine was innovative but they pulled it from the market. Innovative ideas don’t necessarily having staying-power either.
- NeedMoreTea 8y ago
  True, I'd forgotten that one. The same explosion in a paint factory ABS everywhere looks as the vacuums meant it wasn't a permitted option for our house. :) They updated those that were sold to disable the contra-rotating. No idea why.
ianhowson 8y ago
I got my wife the hair dryer and I'm genuinely impressed with it. It weighs nothing, uses proper PID control for heat and fan, heats up and cools fast and just feels good. The device stays cool while heating the air and it blows a lot of air while making hardly any noise. In short, I can't imagine a more perfect hair dryer. Sadly, I am bald and do not get to use it. I did spend a while gushing about how neat it was, though.

fifteenforty 8y ago

You could buy a BenQ WiT for $180. Vastly more practical for most nerds, cheaper and has a replaceable DC transformer. The name isn’t as sexy though! https://www.benq.com/en/lighting/e-reading-lamp/wit.html https://www.benq.com/en/lighting/e-reading-lamp/wit.html

masklinn 8y ago

> Heat Pipe cooling technology. […] Dyson engineers addressed this with technology often used in satellites. Or in many/most CPU and GPU heatsinks for the last decade or so, both Intel and AMD have heatpipe-based stock coolers in their range. There are heatpipe-based heatsinks available for $10~15.

Phrodo_00 8y ago
Yeah, this also jumped at me. I think that when copy writters make that kind of claim it really hurts the credibility of the entire copy, and you start to wonder where else they're exaggerating.
ianhowson 8y ago
It's novel for an LED lamp, though. Most manufacturers just put a heatsink on the back. It's ugly. If you're going for the best possible LED lamp, irrespective of cost, I can't think of a better cooling method.
- masklinn 8y ago
  > It's novel for an LED lamp, though. Kinda? It already exists, but usually to better spread heat to the sink in high-power LED lamps (50W+, not equivalent, actual). And my point is outlining that it's "satellite technology" is complete bullshit marketing copy. I would expect more or less every laptop with fans[0] to use heatpipes, even for gaming / workstation laptops it hasn't made sense to stick a radiator on the CPU/GPU in a long time. [0] apparently fanless devices don't, I guess there wouldn't be enough of a heat differential between the CPU and a hypothetical heatspreader for it to work?
  - bayindirh 8y ago
    > And my point is outlining that it's "satellite technology" is complete bullshit marketing copy. Actually, I have a friend who works at a company which designs extreme heat pipes and heat wicks for satellite applications. He has a satellite-spec heat pipe specimen which he shows around with heat-sensitive paint to demonstrate heat transfer speed, and it's way faster than conventional heat pipes. It's almost instant. Don't know the secret sauce though.

EngineerBetter 8y ago

Wow, it takes something to make Philips Hue look cheap. I'll stick to those, which I can fill several rooms with for the same price.

ctack 8y ago

A couple fo years ago someone figured out how to recreate sunlight. I can't wait for that to take off and was hoping this might be the start. I think this is them https://www.coelux.com https://www.coelux.com

ctack 8y ago
Wow, looking at it now and they're orders of magnitude more expensive than the already expensive Dyson lamps.

KentGeek 8y ago

Personally, I'm done with Dyson. James was a vocal supporter of Brexit, gets what he wants, then decides to move his company's HQ to Singapore. That kind of blatant hypocrisy taints their products for me.