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Who is downvoting this guy? Monopoly on use of force... that doesn't belong to the state. If you see a man raping a woman.. you can probably knock him out. A

Who is downvoting this guy? Monopoly on use of force... that doesn't belong to the state. If you see a man raping a woman.. you can probably knock him out. As for borders.. they are not immoral. Illegal immigration benefits people good at illegal activities: criminals. These criminals rape, murder, rob and kidnap their "customers". "80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S." https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-mi... "Mexican Police Helped Cartel Massacre 193 Migrants, Documents Show" https://www.npr.org/2014/12/22/372579429/mexican-police-helped-cartel-massacre-193-migrants-documents-show https://www.npr.org/2014/12/22/372579429/mexican-police-help... If someone said to me "hey, we can go make a lot more money, but we have an decent chance of being raped, kidnapped, robbed, or murdered", and I'd say, nah, I'll stay here. The rape numbers are now more like 30%, but that is still not worth it, not advisable. I'd like to see a wall just so people stop trying to do this dangerous activity, which benefits raping, murderous cartels. Many women get stuck in prostitution rings in Mexico because they are tricked into debt, which they then have to pay off. They are not Mexican citizens, so they can't go to the police, and they never make it to America. We don't have to demonize the illegal immigrants, but the people who are facilitating the illegal immigration are demonic.. raping, murdering, robbing their "customers". Trump knew this in 2015. He was referring to the "80% of central american women are raped when crossing illegally" article when he announced and said "they're bringing crime, there are rapists". Here he references the actual article. https://youtu.be/m91vEm9kAsY?t=184 https://youtu.be/m91vEm9kAsY?t=184

PhasmaFelis 8y ago
> Who is downvoting this guy? Monopoly on use of force... that doesn't belong to the state. If you see a man raping a woman.. you can probably knock him out. Read my grandparent post. I specifically addressed that. The state can authorize citizens to use violence in specific situations while maintaining absolute authority over who is allowed to use violence, just as a commercial monopoly can authorize other companies to manufacture their products while maintaining a monopoly. The rest of your post...who do you think you're arguing with? No one said borders were immoral or mentioned anything about Mexico or Trump. It looks like you saw the word "borders" and went off on a tear.
PhasmaFelis 8y ago
> If someone said to me "hey, we can go make a lot more money, but we have an decent chance of being raped, kidnapped, robbed, or murdered", and I'd say, nah, I'll stay here. Do you think people immigrate illegally just for extra spending money? All of those horrible things can also happen to them at home. They choose to risk everything for the hope of a decent life for themselves and their families. If you're against illegal immigration, fine, but don't fool yourself that anyone is motivated by concern for the poor immigrants. If you really want to undercut the cartels and give immigrants a better life, make more opportunities for them to immigrate legally and become productive Americans.

PhasmaFelis 8y ago

> Who is downvoting this guy? Monopoly on use of force... that doesn't belong to the state. If you see a man raping a woman.. you can probably knock him out. Read my grandparent post. I specifically addressed that. The state can authorize citizens to use violence in specific situations while maintaining absolute authority over who is allowed to use violence, just as a commercial monopoly can authorize other companies to manufacture their products while maintaining a monopoly. The rest of your post...who do you think you're arguing with? No one said borders were immoral or mentioned anything about Mexico or Trump. It looks like you saw the word "borders" and went off on a tear.

PhasmaFelis 8y ago

> If someone said to me "hey, we can go make a lot more money, but we have an decent chance of being raped, kidnapped, robbed, or murdered", and I'd say, nah, I'll stay here. Do you think people immigrate illegally just for extra spending money? All of those horrible things can also happen to them at home. They choose to risk everything for the hope of a decent life for themselves and their families. If you're against illegal immigration, fine, but don't fool yourself that anyone is motivated by concern for the poor immigrants. If you really want to undercut the cartels and give immigrants a better life, make more opportunities for them to immigrate legally and become productive Americans.