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That's all well and good if using one were the same as using two. Of course, it isn't...

asudosandwich 8y ago
It helps in a pinch if you’re on a really long conference call and the batteries start to run low. I’ll pop one briefly back in the case to top it off and not have to miss anything said.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  Sure, it's a fine workaround for a dying pair, but the GP said: >I'll just address this point, because it is categorically incorrect and something many people misunderstood when they were first released
  - stouset 8y ago
    GP said they "can't be charged while being used". Which is categorically incorrect. They can, and on the scale of Things That Are a Big Deal, it's an 0.3 out of 10.
    - EpicEng 8y ago
      They can't both be used, and c'mon; is this really a debate? You cannot use _both_ of them and charge them at the same time. The best experience comes from using _both_ of them simultaneously. So, it's a workaround. It's fine, it's whatever, but it's also silly to get haughty about it as if there were no impact whatsoever.
stouset 8y ago
I really wish I could put myself into the shoes of people who think that fifteen minutes of using only one earbud is a big deal, but I honestly just can't.
- exergy 8y ago
  To me, that blows big holes in the argument that Airpods are better than wired earphones. It's compromises up and down the chart with the sole benefit being wirelessness? Are people nowadays really that rich that they can dump 150 USD EVERY two to three years just to get rid of a wire?! Also, I just can't fathom people's willingness to let so much tech into their lives. Laptops, tablets, smartphones, smartwatches, airpods... all of which need to be constantly charged, and replaced once their batteries die, because they cannot be swapped out, meaning the rest of the apparatus lies impotent in a dumpster for a thousand years or more, never to biodegrade... it's depressing and wearisome to picture.
  - stouset 8y ago
    > It's compromises up and down the chart What compromises? They're literally always on my person. At all times. Without even having to think about it, because they just come along with my phone and keys whenever they change pockets. I can wear them all day and basically forget they're there, even when pausing audio to have conversations with people physically in front of me. For phone calls, they're measurably more convenient since I can just leave my phone on my desk and continue whatever it was I was previously doing. The "compromises" I have to make, on the other hand are completely insignificant. Sometimes I have to take one earbud out. Sometimes the case is low on battery so I plug it in at the nearest cable on my desk or nightstand. The audio quality is perfectly fine, I have never noticed a difference unless I was explicitly trying to look for one. > Are people nowadays really that rich that they can dump 150 USD EVERY two to three years just to get rid of a wire?! Why do you seem to believe that these will only last two or three years? Mine are 2.5 years in and I can't say I've noticed any kind of battery degradation. Surely they won't continue to last indefinitely, but every other wired headphone I've used has had the wire fray sooner or later anyway. > Also, I just can't fathom people's willingness to let so much tech into their lives. I can't reply to the other comment you made, but I find it telling that you've decided that you get to be the gatekeeper for what is "too much tech" and what's not. From that comment, "Every person deserves... a laptop... and a smartphone". And headphones too, apparently. But wireless headphones are where we as a society should draw the line? Somehow I don't think I'd be surprised to find you having this same conversation ten years ago deriding how rich people must be to afford a $1,000 cell phone every few years, when flip phones are just as good and aren't full of compromises like software keyboards.
jerkstate 8y ago
I've got an easy fix for you, just buy two pairs, and charge the pair that you're not using!
- tlholaday 8y ago
  Given zero interest rates, and the fact that AirPods used half as much will last twice as many days, the two-pair implementation is financially equivalent to the one-pair implementation.

It helps in a pinch if you’re on a really long conference call and the batteries start to run low. I’ll pop one briefly back in the case to top it off and not have to miss anything said.

EpicEng 8y ago
Sure, it's a fine workaround for a dying pair, but the GP said: >I'll just address this point, because it is categorically incorrect and something many people misunderstood when they were first released
- stouset 8y ago
  GP said they "can't be charged while being used". Which is categorically incorrect. They can, and on the scale of Things That Are a Big Deal, it's an 0.3 out of 10.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    They can't both be used, and c'mon; is this really a debate? You cannot use _both_ of them and charge them at the same time. The best experience comes from using _both_ of them simultaneously. So, it's a workaround. It's fine, it's whatever, but it's also silly to get haughty about it as if there were no impact whatsoever.

stouset 8y ago

I really wish I could put myself into the shoes of people who think that fifteen minutes of using only one earbud is a big deal, but I honestly just can't.

exergy 8y ago
To me, that blows big holes in the argument that Airpods are better than wired earphones. It's compromises up and down the chart with the sole benefit being wirelessness? Are people nowadays really that rich that they can dump 150 USD EVERY two to three years just to get rid of a wire?! Also, I just can't fathom people's willingness to let so much tech into their lives. Laptops, tablets, smartphones, smartwatches, airpods... all of which need to be constantly charged, and replaced once their batteries die, because they cannot be swapped out, meaning the rest of the apparatus lies impotent in a dumpster for a thousand years or more, never to biodegrade... it's depressing and wearisome to picture.
- stouset 8y ago
  > It's compromises up and down the chart What compromises? They're literally always on my person. At all times. Without even having to think about it, because they just come along with my phone and keys whenever they change pockets. I can wear them all day and basically forget they're there, even when pausing audio to have conversations with people physically in front of me. For phone calls, they're measurably more convenient since I can just leave my phone on my desk and continue whatever it was I was previously doing. The "compromises" I have to make, on the other hand are completely insignificant. Sometimes I have to take one earbud out. Sometimes the case is low on battery so I plug it in at the nearest cable on my desk or nightstand. The audio quality is perfectly fine, I have never noticed a difference unless I was explicitly trying to look for one. > Are people nowadays really that rich that they can dump 150 USD EVERY two to three years just to get rid of a wire?! Why do you seem to believe that these will only last two or three years? Mine are 2.5 years in and I can't say I've noticed any kind of battery degradation. Surely they won't continue to last indefinitely, but every other wired headphone I've used has had the wire fray sooner or later anyway. > Also, I just can't fathom people's willingness to let so much tech into their lives. I can't reply to the other comment you made, but I find it telling that you've decided that you get to be the gatekeeper for what is "too much tech" and what's not. From that comment, "Every person deserves... a laptop... and a smartphone". And headphones too, apparently. But wireless headphones are where we as a society should draw the line? Somehow I don't think I'd be surprised to find you having this same conversation ten years ago deriding how rich people must be to afford a $1,000 cell phone every few years, when flip phones are just as good and aren't full of compromises like software keyboards.

jerkstate 8y ago

I've got an easy fix for you, just buy two pairs, and charge the pair that you're not using!

tlholaday 8y ago
Given zero interest rates, and the fact that AirPods used half as much will last twice as many days, the two-pair implementation is financially equivalent to the one-pair implementation.