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Unwilling? Don't buy a Tesla. Don't believe the hype. It's that simple. Granted, there is nothing stopping any ECU from killing you, but I'd trust a company lik

Unwilling? Don't buy a Tesla. Don't believe the hype. It's that simple. Granted, there is nothing stopping any ECU from killing you, but I'd trust a company like Honda way before Tesla.

Tomte 8y ago
I generally have zero interest in cars and don't follow the new models, but my impression from articles I've seen in the last years is that Volvo is actually a top contender for driver assistant systems (when you don't fool yourself into thinking you have an autopilot, but you really want sensible safety augmentation features). Is that impression accurate?
- mongol 8y ago
  I have no idea. Volvo certainly has the culture to do something good out of it. But do they have the money and resources required? Today they are owned by Chinese Geely. I don't know what partnerships and capital they can work with to compete with the top contenders (who I assume have Silicon Valley capital behind them)
  - sangnoir 8y ago
    Geely has invested a lot into Volvo[1], and Volvo are innovating in interesting ways[2] . I would choose the electric Polestar 2 over a Tesla in the same price-bracket due to Volvo's culture of safety. Hopefully the cheaper versions will be released soon. 1. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-24/volvo-is-better-than-ever-thanks-to-this-chinese-billionaire https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-24/volvo-is-... 2. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/volvo-spinoff-polestar-reveals-its-battery-ev-the-polestar-2/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/volvo-spinoff-polestar-...
- ancientworldnow 8y ago
  Waymo and Cadillac Super Cruise are generally considered the market leaders.
- ronaru 8y ago
  GM cruise is the best based on this article, when you take "keeping driver engaged" as one of the criteria: https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cadillac-tops-tesla-in-automated-systems-ranking/ https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cadillac-... Volvo's tech is last among the ones compared.
adrianN 8y ago
Tesla crashes can injure people who don't drive a Tesla themselves.
- jstanley 8y ago
  So can Honda crashes.
  - yborg 8y ago
    Honda isn't experimenting on the public at large with unproven technology. One of their suppliers did, and ended up bankrupt as a result.
maxxxxx 8y ago
"Unwilling? Don't buy a Tesla." That doesn't protect me from being killed by a Tesla. I am pretty neutral on the topic but I am getting the feeling that they are in danger of pushing out half baked stuff like we tend to do in software. For most things like software this is OK but maybe not for things that are moving at high speeds.
- smileysteve 8y ago
  Reminder that it has been and still is the norm for the last half century for 30k people to die in car accidents each year. Many more injured and disabled. Better yet, texting while driving increases the risk of an accident while driving 23x

Unwilling? Don't buy a Tesla. Don't believe the hype. It's that simple. Granted, there is nothing stopping any ECU from killing you, but I'd trust a company like Honda way before Tesla.

Tomte 8y ago

I generally have zero interest in cars and don't follow the new models, but my impression from articles I've seen in the last years is that Volvo is actually a top contender for driver assistant systems (when you don't fool yourself into thinking you have an autopilot, but you really want sensible safety augmentation features). Is that impression accurate?

mongol 8y ago
I have no idea. Volvo certainly has the culture to do something good out of it. But do they have the money and resources required? Today they are owned by Chinese Geely. I don't know what partnerships and capital they can work with to compete with the top contenders (who I assume have Silicon Valley capital behind them)
- sangnoir 8y ago
  Geely has invested a lot into Volvo[1], and Volvo are innovating in interesting ways[2] . I would choose the electric Polestar 2 over a Tesla in the same price-bracket due to Volvo's culture of safety. Hopefully the cheaper versions will be released soon. 1. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-24/volvo-is-better-than-ever-thanks-to-this-chinese-billionaire https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-24/volvo-is-... 2. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/volvo-spinoff-polestar-reveals-its-battery-ev-the-polestar-2/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/volvo-spinoff-polestar-...
ancientworldnow 8y ago
Waymo and Cadillac Super Cruise are generally considered the market leaders.
ronaru 8y ago
GM cruise is the best based on this article, when you take "keeping driver engaged" as one of the criteria: https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cadillac-tops-tesla-in-automated-systems-ranking/ https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cadillac-... Volvo's tech is last among the ones compared.

adrianN 8y ago

Tesla crashes can injure people who don't drive a Tesla themselves.

jstanley 8y ago
So can Honda crashes.
- yborg 8y ago
  Honda isn't experimenting on the public at large with unproven technology. One of their suppliers did, and ended up bankrupt as a result.

maxxxxx 8y ago

"Unwilling? Don't buy a Tesla." That doesn't protect me from being killed by a Tesla. I am pretty neutral on the topic but I am getting the feeling that they are in danger of pushing out half baked stuff like we tend to do in software. For most things like software this is OK but maybe not for things that are moving at high speeds.

smileysteve 8y ago
Reminder that it has been and still is the norm for the last half century for 30k people to die in car accidents each year. Many more injured and disabled. Better yet, texting while driving increases the risk of an accident while driving 23x