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No, I am viewing this as a general world-wide trend, censoring for _any_ reason you can get people to agree with first. Then, when people agree to censorship in

No, I am viewing this as a general world-wide trend, censoring for _any_ reason you can get people to agree with first. Then, when people agree to censorship in general, they won't fight it when it get's really bad, mainly because they won't know it's happening. (consider China) The actual "really bad" results of this is years away still. But this is how freedom of speech is stripped away. Under the guise of safety, one tiny piece at a time. Would George Washington have fought the British if the British had succeeded is censoring every pamphlet? Would India have succeeded in escaping the power of Britain if Ghandi couldn't speak openly? If the cost of censorship is tyranny world wide, it's not worth it. We _need_ freedom of speech, even if it allows kooks the same platform, that is cost we should be willing to pay.

erentz 8y ago
Youre responding to a thread about the New Zealand mosque attacks and the Office of Film and Literatures classification of this video as objectionable and expressing concern that this can be used for political purposes to quell dissenting political opinions, which I have explained why that can’t be used that way in NZ and you’re mistaken in your understanding of how censorship works in NZ. Now you say you’re concerned about censorship as a concept generally in far away historical and authoritarian regimes. These things do not follow and your concern has no relation to this thread. It’s borderline bait.
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  This is _big_ news in the US, the place I feel confident claiming is the last bastion of free speech. (if there is such a thing) Viewing this as a NZ only issue is thinking small. There's discussions about free speech in the US and all over the world about this issue.
  - erentz 8y ago
    You said: > This is a great tool for stifling opposing politics of _any_ kind. And seems like the easiest way to start an oppressive tyranny than a method of stopping terrorist propaganda. You’re talking about a tool in New Zealand you clearly knew nothing about but presumed was some kind of censorship you’d find in a dictatorship. You’ve been corrected on that. Then your concern was far away authoritarian regimes. Now your concern is the US and yet you bring up nothing related to how New Zealand’s Office of Film and Literature’s classification applies to potential US pathways into tyranny.
    - RobertRoberts 8y ago
      The "great tool" is censorship. New Zealand is just the current lightening rod to push more of it on everyone. Both NZ and the US and all other countries are becoming more oppressive every year. Censorship (the tool of tyranny and dictators) is constantly be pushed to "protect" someone. If you think NZ won't change because of these events you are deceiving yourself.

erentz 8y ago

Youre responding to a thread about the New Zealand mosque attacks and the Office of Film and Literatures classification of this video as objectionable and expressing concern that this can be used for political purposes to quell dissenting political opinions, which I have explained why that can’t be used that way in NZ and you’re mistaken in your understanding of how censorship works in NZ. Now you say you’re concerned about censorship as a concept generally in far away historical and authoritarian regimes. These things do not follow and your concern has no relation to this thread. It’s borderline bait.

RobertRoberts 8y ago
This is _big_ news in the US, the place I feel confident claiming is the last bastion of free speech. (if there is such a thing) Viewing this as a NZ only issue is thinking small. There's discussions about free speech in the US and all over the world about this issue.
- erentz 8y ago
  You said: > This is a great tool for stifling opposing politics of _any_ kind. And seems like the easiest way to start an oppressive tyranny than a method of stopping terrorist propaganda. You’re talking about a tool in New Zealand you clearly knew nothing about but presumed was some kind of censorship you’d find in a dictatorship. You’ve been corrected on that. Then your concern was far away authoritarian regimes. Now your concern is the US and yet you bring up nothing related to how New Zealand’s Office of Film and Literature’s classification applies to potential US pathways into tyranny.
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    The "great tool" is censorship. New Zealand is just the current lightening rod to push more of it on everyone. Both NZ and the US and all other countries are becoming more oppressive every year. Censorship (the tool of tyranny and dictators) is constantly be pushed to "protect" someone. If you think NZ won't change because of these events you are deceiving yourself.