Elsewhere I've read MCAS does take altitude into account, as well as flaps, i.e. it's only active above a certain altitude, and only when flaps are retracted. S

Elsewhere I've read MCAS does take altitude into account, as well as flaps, i.e. it's only active above a certain altitude, and only when flaps are retracted. So... yeah, we don't have the full story. And also in another thread, it's reported from the flight prior to Lion Air 610 (same plane) there were airspeed and altitude disagreements. I'm not at all clear from available reporting whether airspeed, altitude, and angle of attack were inconsistent, if that was a source of either autopilot confusion, and then pilot confusion, whether pilots did set stabilizer trim to cutoff and when and whether it was too late. I'm a pilot (former CFII) and the whole automation fail danger strikes me as terrible. John Q Public says "I want the automation to override the pilot's mistakes!" What? OK fine. What about Asiana Airlines Flight 214 where the pilot advanced throttles, an explicit intent input, and yet autothrottles were set so the automation said nope. And then John Q Public are all, well the pilot should have KNOWN! It's like it's a game where the pilot is only there as the last resort to be blamed if they too fail, even after a sequence of automation failures. Automation betraying pilots at low altitude is in my view functionally equivalent to an in-flight breakup. And automation in the cockpit mentality in the face of failures has been, for 20+years, "add another button, add another feature, add another routine" to tack on all the others. And yes this absolutely makes me think of autonomous driving as total b.s. Airplanes are in a standardized system, with far bigger budgets for automation and yet we still have to fall back to human pilots for routine procedures like parking, taxiing, VFR approaches and landings, and telling the automation literally every detail it needs to do, ATC communication. It's ripe for end to end automation and yet we still don't do that. Driving cars is wildly more complicated for automation: non-standard streets, paint, signage, laws, pedestrian behavior, bicycles, cars still driven by humans, weather - haha. Sounds nice, great idea, keep trying, but it's complete bullshit.