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Probably everywhere necessary. The snuff video has been adjudged obscene, the way the NZ law works it was always obscene, the censor just confirms it. In practi

Probably everywhere necessary. The snuff video has been adjudged obscene, the way the NZ law works it was always obscene, the censor just confirms it. In practice if you access something like this and once you realise what you're seeing you stop watching then the government isn't going to come after you, but if you share it, keep a copy etc etc you have broken the law enough that you're likely in trouble. Because it's illegal to have a copy or to publish it the ISPs are likely liable for having transient copies in their routers (these laws were written for film), the ISPs chose to do this initially purely as a public service but now I suspect that they are likely legally liable if they don't make a good faith effort to block these sites (remember ISPs can IP block and DNS block, they can't edit an SSL query on the fly, so everything at that IP will be blocked, if you're hosting your web site along with a snuff film archive I don't have a lot of sympathy for you). A couple of people have already been in court for sharing it, one is an actual nazi, the other alt-right who may also be an accomplice. Several people have also lost their jobs for sharing it at work or just plain accessing it at work (this is an action by the companies, not the govt). There's no real reason why anyone needs to watch this snuff video, except maybe the police themselves as evidence.

RobertRoberts 8y ago
Don't be naive, it's not being blocked because it's "obscene" or "snuff". There are plenty of sites with _far_ worse than this video on them that aren't blocked.
- Taniwha 8y ago
  No, that's exactly why it's being blocked, just because there's worse stuff out there doesn't suddenly make this evil stuff acceptable
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    It's being blocked for political reasons. Just like when the US went to war against Iraq, one argument was "Saddam is a dictator that kills his own people". But there are worse dictators before and after Saddam. You are using the same manipulative cherry-picked argument to justify censorship. Censorship is a weapon used by dictators, not free leaders.
    - Taniwha 8y ago
      It's being blocked by private companies, because they think it's the right thing to do in context, and I suspect largely for business reasons, they don't want to be convicted for passing around the snuff video. Censorship is part of our law, it's right and proper for the NZ censor to declare the snuff video as obscene, that's his job according to law. We're a democracy, if we decide we don't need a censor we'll legislate him away. In the meantime I'm curious why you are so in favour of this video, are you a supporter of the terrorist and his goals?
      - RobertRoberts 8y ago
        Here's the _government_ of NZ arresting people for _not_ censoring the video, with a worse punishment than murder and rape: (fyi, all censoring has to be done via private companies, unless NZ has all government run internet and tv?) https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/new-zealand-men-could-get-14-years-for-sharing-massacre-video/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/new-zealand-men-... I absolutely loath the video, it's revolting. But as I mentioned ealier, worse stuff has been online and still is. I think the problem is that many people don't want to really know what was on the video and be appalled by it without truly knowing. Do you know what was on it? It was sick and terrible. But, since I have seen the whole thing (I made myself) I can compare it with other videos. The last few years of ISIS videos of drownings, murders, pushing people off of roofs, mass shootings, etc... (only part of a few I saw, and what I saw was so terrible I turned it off) A _slew_ of videos that are 10 times more graphic, sick and violent have been shown on CNN, Fox News and elsewhere. So, if you believe this one video is worse than others, I would like to know which part is more horrific than people being burned alive in a cage? Yet, I didn't hear one single peep about censoring those videos, or anyone being arrested or jailed for sharing ISIS terrorist propaganda.
        Taniwha 8y ago
        Yes the video is illegal, those people were arrested because they broke the law. I'm sorry for you that you watched it all the way through, that sounds like a sick compulsion, please get help

RobertRoberts 8y ago

Don't be naive, it's not being blocked because it's "obscene" or "snuff". There are plenty of sites with _far_ worse than this video on them that aren't blocked.

Taniwha 8y ago
No, that's exactly why it's being blocked, just because there's worse stuff out there doesn't suddenly make this evil stuff acceptable
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  It's being blocked for political reasons. Just like when the US went to war against Iraq, one argument was "Saddam is a dictator that kills his own people". But there are worse dictators before and after Saddam. You are using the same manipulative cherry-picked argument to justify censorship. Censorship is a weapon used by dictators, not free leaders.
  - Taniwha 8y ago
    It's being blocked by private companies, because they think it's the right thing to do in context, and I suspect largely for business reasons, they don't want to be convicted for passing around the snuff video. Censorship is part of our law, it's right and proper for the NZ censor to declare the snuff video as obscene, that's his job according to law. We're a democracy, if we decide we don't need a censor we'll legislate him away. In the meantime I'm curious why you are so in favour of this video, are you a supporter of the terrorist and his goals?
    - RobertRoberts 8y ago
      Here's the _government_ of NZ arresting people for _not_ censoring the video, with a worse punishment than murder and rape: (fyi, all censoring has to be done via private companies, unless NZ has all government run internet and tv?) https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/new-zealand-men-could-get-14-years-for-sharing-massacre-video/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/new-zealand-men-... I absolutely loath the video, it's revolting. But as I mentioned ealier, worse stuff has been online and still is. I think the problem is that many people don't want to really know what was on the video and be appalled by it without truly knowing. Do you know what was on it? It was sick and terrible. But, since I have seen the whole thing (I made myself) I can compare it with other videos. The last few years of ISIS videos of drownings, murders, pushing people off of roofs, mass shootings, etc... (only part of a few I saw, and what I saw was so terrible I turned it off) A _slew_ of videos that are 10 times more graphic, sick and violent have been shown on CNN, Fox News and elsewhere. So, if you believe this one video is worse than others, I would like to know which part is more horrific than people being burned alive in a cage? Yet, I didn't hear one single peep about censoring those videos, or anyone being arrested or jailed for sharing ISIS terrorist propaganda.
      - Taniwha 8y ago
        Yes the video is illegal, those people were arrested because they broke the law. I'm sorry for you that you watched it all the way through, that sounds like a sick compulsion, please get help