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Pretty soon it will be available everywhere. How many sites will they block?
by vondur 8y ago
Pretty soon it will be available everywhere. How many sites will they block?
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- AtlasLion 8y agoSoon drugs will be everywhere so why stop these two drug dealers? how many drug dealers will they arrest?
- rudedogg 8y agoWe're kind of figuring out that doesn't work either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs#Efficacy_of_the_United_States_war_on_drugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs#Efficacy_of_the_U... ------------------ I think the grandparent was referencing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
- moate 8y agoIDK that this constitutes the streisand effect. I don't feel like most people are going to be actively seeking this out now that it's being banned. Part of what fuels the streisand effect is that the thing being covered up was relatively unknown prior to the cover-up. People know the details of this event. They know, generally, what's on the video. The fact that it becomes harder to get isn't going to make Joe-Everyman curious about what the big deal is. He gets that the big deal is that it's a video of actual humans being actually murdered, and he probably has feelings about that.
- ahoy 8y agoSelling drugs should be legal though, so I'm not sure what you're saying.
- michaelt 8y agoAtlasLion is saying the fact the government "can't" or "shouldn't" ban drugs hasn't stopped them putting a lot of effort and resources into trying to.
- Pharmakon 8y agoReplace “drug dealers” with “armed robbers” and you’ll avoid thn inevitable moralizing and nitpicking.
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- Taniwha 8y agoProbably everywhere necessary. The snuff video has been adjudged obscene, the way the NZ law works it was always obscene, the censor just confirms it. In practice if you access something like this and once you realise what you're seeing you stop watching then the government isn't going to come after you, but if you share it, keep a copy etc etc you have broken the law enough that you're likely in trouble. Because it's illegal to have a copy or to publish it the ISPs are likely liable for having transient copies in their routers (these laws were written for film), the ISPs chose to do this initially purely as a public service but now I suspect that they are likely legally liable if they don't make a good faith effort to block these sites (remember ISPs can IP block and DNS block, they can't edit an SSL query on the fly, so everything at that IP will be blocked, if you're hosting your web site along with a snuff film archive I don't have a lot of sympathy for you). A couple of people have already been in court for sharing it, one is an actual nazi, the other alt-right who may also be an accomplice. Several people have also lost their jobs for sharing it at work or just plain accessing it at work (this is an action by the companies, not the govt). There's no real reason why anyone needs to watch this snuff video, except maybe the police themselves as evidence.
- RobertRoberts 8y agoDon't be naive, it's not being blocked because it's "obscene" or "snuff". There are plenty of sites with _far_ worse than this video on them that aren't blocked.
- Taniwha 8y agoNo, that's exactly why it's being blocked, just because there's worse stuff out there doesn't suddenly make this evil stuff acceptable
- RobertRoberts 8y agoIt's being blocked for political reasons. Just like when the US went to war against Iraq, one argument was "Saddam is a dictator that kills his own people". But there are worse dictators before and after Saddam. You are using the same manipulative cherry-picked argument to justify censorship. Censorship is a weapon used by dictators, not free leaders.
- ars 8y agoIt's on a torrent with a magnet link, it's basically unblockable.