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>There's something to be said for having an album of photos that you pull out a couple of times a year to show a select group of others. My perhaps unreasonabl

by jpfed 8y ago

>There's something to be said for having an album of photos that you pull out a couple of times a year to show a select group of others. My perhaps unreasonable hope for a Facebook killer is just a paid personal archive of your own photos, writings, etc. with the assumption of privacy by default.

OatsAndHoney 8y ago
Have you tried iCloud / iPhone? That's what I switched over to once I quit Facebook and Android. The iPhone is great, it's private by default, I can share photos / albums only with the people that I want, and I create different groups based off of different interests, trips, etc. All together with iMessage and Notes I get pretty much everything I had with a newsfeed / blog, all without the implications of Facebook and giving up all of my privacy.
- virusduck 8y ago
  Same here. At first it seems a little clunky, but then I realized that was actually a feature.
tomcam 8y ago
I call that Gsuite and/or iCloud, both of which I pay for.
james-skemp 8y ago
If you have an Amazon Prime subscription you get unlimited photo storage and a certain amount of space for videos/documents for free. You can also create groups and post photos/videos to that for sharing with family. Only issue I've run into is the Amazon Photos app on Android doesn't always back up photos as timely as I'd like, and deleting photos on my phone (wanting them to stay in the cloud) results in some odd behavior with images not loading, even though pulling up a computer they're still there. I also have a quite large video that it keeps getting stuck on with the upload, which might be part of the issue. https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Photos/b?ie=UTF8&node=13234696011 https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Photos/b?ie=UTF8&node=13234696...
sverige 8y ago
The old school version is my aged mother finding birth announcements from the late 50s and early 60s handwritten by my aunt for each of her four children. My aunt passed away five years ago. She sent the originals to each of my cousins by snail mail. They were thrilled to receive such a thing written by their mother.
ljf 8y ago
google photos stores all your images and videos for free (well it downscales them to 14m if they are over) - but for most people this is essentially free and forever. You can choose to share images and folders/albums - or even share everything. You can also ask it to pull from folders on your phone or computer - so every time I take a new photo it is saved. It then does nice 'reminders' of your images and videos from years back. This plus google docs if you want to save private writings has you pretty much covered. I am very happy to be off social media now - my vague replacement is sharing things to Whatsapp with selected friends and family.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  The one problem (as far as owner privacy/access control) with these Google services is that the read-only sharing method is essentially irrevocable (without moving the item in a way which causes Google to host it at a different URL) and infinitely resharable by anyone who gets access independent of the owner. As I discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19444392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19444392
dragonwriter 8y ago
> My perhaps unreasonable hope for a Facebook killer is just a paid personal archive of your own photos, writings, etc. with the assumption of privacy by default. Really, the only reason Google’s collection of online services (Google One, basically,though the individual services mostly are older than that bundling) falls down here is that several of them use unguessable URLs and URL sharing as the private sharing mechanism (at least for read only sharing), instead of revocable access delegation.
godshatter 8y ago
How permanent would such a thing be in the long run, though? I ask this as someone who will soon have to download their G+ data before the service is shut off in a couple of weeks. Not to mention the recent MySpace debacle where a lot of data was lost due to a system migration. Also, the assumption of privacy is nice, but how private is it actually? For example, you'd have to break into my house and steal my photo album to see pictures of me as a baby. Not trying to be contrary, I guess I just don't resonate with social media that much. A private personal archive of my data would be one that I control on my own devices. I treat posting to the cloud, in whatever form, as making it public despite whatever assurances they have about privacy, unless it's something like my taxes or banking information where there are strict laws involved.
- jpfed 8y ago
  The thing about G+ is that it wasn't their core business. There are a lot of replies to my comment talking about existing solutions... which are also peripheral to the companies offering them. I hope that at some point someone makes what I described their core business, with the ability to get your data out painlessly as a hedge against the finite lifetime of the service.
matz1 8y ago
Its more practical to teach the younger generation to assume that everything is public by default and equip them with necessary skill to deal with this. At least thats what I will teach my kid.

by jpfed 8y ago

OatsAndHoney 8y ago

Have you tried iCloud / iPhone? That's what I switched over to once I quit Facebook and Android. The iPhone is great, it's private by default, I can share photos / albums only with the people that I want, and I create different groups based off of different interests, trips, etc. All together with iMessage and Notes I get pretty much everything I had with a newsfeed / blog, all without the implications of Facebook and giving up all of my privacy.

virusduck 8y ago
Same here. At first it seems a little clunky, but then I realized that was actually a feature.

tomcam 8y ago

I call that Gsuite and/or iCloud, both of which I pay for.

james-skemp 8y ago

If you have an Amazon Prime subscription you get unlimited photo storage and a certain amount of space for videos/documents for free. You can also create groups and post photos/videos to that for sharing with family. Only issue I've run into is the Amazon Photos app on Android doesn't always back up photos as timely as I'd like, and deleting photos on my phone (wanting them to stay in the cloud) results in some odd behavior with images not loading, even though pulling up a computer they're still there. I also have a quite large video that it keeps getting stuck on with the upload, which might be part of the issue. https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Photos/b?ie=UTF8&node=13234696011 https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Photos/b?ie=UTF8&node=13234696...

sverige 8y ago

The old school version is my aged mother finding birth announcements from the late 50s and early 60s handwritten by my aunt for each of her four children. My aunt passed away five years ago. She sent the originals to each of my cousins by snail mail. They were thrilled to receive such a thing written by their mother.

ljf 8y ago

google photos stores all your images and videos for free (well it downscales them to 14m if they are over) - but for most people this is essentially free and forever. You can choose to share images and folders/albums - or even share everything. You can also ask it to pull from folders on your phone or computer - so every time I take a new photo it is saved. It then does nice 'reminders' of your images and videos from years back. This plus google docs if you want to save private writings has you pretty much covered. I am very happy to be off social media now - my vague replacement is sharing things to Whatsapp with selected friends and family.

dragonwriter 8y ago
The one problem (as far as owner privacy/access control) with these Google services is that the read-only sharing method is essentially irrevocable (without moving the item in a way which causes Google to host it at a different URL) and infinitely resharable by anyone who gets access independent of the owner. As I discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19444392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19444392

dragonwriter 8y ago

> My perhaps unreasonable hope for a Facebook killer is just a paid personal archive of your own photos, writings, etc. with the assumption of privacy by default. Really, the only reason Google’s collection of online services (Google One, basically,though the individual services mostly are older than that bundling) falls down here is that several of them use unguessable URLs and URL sharing as the private sharing mechanism (at least for read only sharing), instead of revocable access delegation.

godshatter 8y ago

How permanent would such a thing be in the long run, though? I ask this as someone who will soon have to download their G+ data before the service is shut off in a couple of weeks. Not to mention the recent MySpace debacle where a lot of data was lost due to a system migration. Also, the assumption of privacy is nice, but how private is it actually? For example, you'd have to break into my house and steal my photo album to see pictures of me as a baby. Not trying to be contrary, I guess I just don't resonate with social media that much. A private personal archive of my data would be one that I control on my own devices. I treat posting to the cloud, in whatever form, as making it public despite whatever assurances they have about privacy, unless it's something like my taxes or banking information where there are strict laws involved.

jpfed 8y ago
The thing about G+ is that it wasn't their core business. There are a lot of replies to my comment talking about existing solutions... which are also peripheral to the companies offering them. I hope that at some point someone makes what I described their core business, with the ability to get your data out painlessly as a hedge against the finite lifetime of the service.

matz1 8y ago

Its more practical to teach the younger generation to assume that everything is public by default and equip them with necessary skill to deal with this. At least thats what I will teach my kid.