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>> Paper: "Yet the world is doing remarkably well overall, and has not suffered any of the oft-threatened giant digital catastrophes." > HN: This paper is the
by segfaultbuserr 8y ago
>> Paper: "Yet the world is doing remarkably well overall, and has not suffered any of the oft-threatened giant digital catastrophes."
> HN: This paper is the antivax argument, but for tech. If there was no major digital disaster that does not means that it cannot happen.
No, it's not what the author was saying. I found the paper is advocating a different position.
> Paper: This essay does not claim that a “digital Pearl Harbor” will not take place. One, or more, almost surely will. But that has to be viewed in perspective. Given our inability to build secure system, such events are bound happen in any case. So all we can affect is their frequency and severity, just as with large physical dangers. Further, the likelihood of a“digital Pearl Harbor” has to be considered in comparison to all the other threats we face. The issue is risk management, deciding how much resources to devote to various areas.
I completely disagree with the main thesis of the paper, but I think this perspective is interesting.
It seems the author is using an approach towards network security similar to, say, industrial safety or terrorist attacks: I think everyone at here is familiar with the criticism from cryptographers like Bruce Schneier on terrorist attacks: locking down the streets or putting armed forces and increasingly ridiculous lists of banned goods at airports is mainly a security theater. If a terrorist decided to destroy something, literally everything, from a bus, a market, a train station, an airplane or a park, etc, can be a target. Imagining a movie plot of terrorists attacking a particular target, and putting that target under a ton of superficial security measures is not meaningful for security in the real world.
It seems the author thinks most online attacks work in a similar way.
I think it's an interesting, debatable perspective.
What do you think about it?
- DaniloDias 8y agoI think this is already well trod ground, using an unmeasurable claim that doesn’t withstand scrutiny. If security didn’t matter, we wouldn’t have consultants earning 500k+ per year doing glorified QA. We wouldn’t have the fines associated with GDPR. We wouldn’t have the public turmoil over the Clinton email scandal. I don’t think anyone is smarter about solving security problems as a result of reading this paper. I don’t think anyone’s smarter about shipping products without security as a result. This reads like an apology for the status quo. There are predictable and avoidable financial consequences for anyone who takes to heart the claim that “security is not very important.”
- leroy_2000 8y ago"If security didn't matter, we wouldn't have consultants earning 500k+ per year doing glorified QA." That's like saying "If elevators didn't matter, we wouldn't have elevator operators." But oh wait, we solved that problem. Future generations will likely solve the problem for the need for security. But today's society is so ignorant of the attributes that lead to abhorrent behavior that they cannot even fathom that security will become a non-issue in the future.
- pvg 8y agoHN: This paper is the antivax argument You should probably be replying to the one specific person in this thread who said that instead of arbitrarily attributing it to 'HN'.