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Higher education is insanely our of touch with reality. Literally, on any given campus you'll hear "we don't produce jobs, we produce degrees" all while they bo

Higher education is insanely our of touch with reality. Literally, on any given campus you'll hear "we don't produce jobs, we produce degrees" all while they boast $$$ on their website over what you'll earn. It's disgusting. I was a yuge Bernie fan in 2016 because he addressed one of the biggest issues our society faces - why do we allow the universities to endenture our youth? There's simply no reason. The material is all online. Usually in a better format than what your university is offering. Testing isn't something special that only universities can offer. Hell at this point it's mostly grad students teaching anyway... (Personal experience) We should do away with university. Learn online, test at a local institute (much more economic), but for the love of God let's give the 20 year Olds dorms still cuz that's an experience we all need to have. Coed.

kypro 8y ago
> but for the love of God let's give the 20 year Olds dorms still cuz that's an experience we all need to have. Coed. If this is true could you explain what I missed out on?
- ZeroFries 8y ago
  Depends on the type of person you are. I didn't like them much, but lots of people had fun and formed great memories and friendships.
  - kypro 8y ago
    Why should tax payers be paying for, "people having fun"? I mean people have fun, form memories and make friendships on holidays too.
    - qntty 8y ago
      I think the point is that we should preserve the tradition of young people living in large houses together even if fewer people end up going to college. Tax payers don't necessarily have to pay for it. BTW, if you spent time living in a city near other young people, you probably didn't miss out on much by not living in a dorm. Some people really thrive in that environment, but personally I prefer the apartment-style living in an area with a lot of young people (college campus or city with young people) that I transitioned to after freshman year.
  - zanny 8y ago
    The kind of people who like living in dorms should then live in dorms (many reproduce dorm-like conditions after school anyway by sharing a house with other tenants) and the people who don't would rather not be compelled at a societal level to do it "because its so much fun for some of us". I had a year of rooming in college with a perfectly fine guy but I wouldn't ever want to do that ever again and got nothing particularly memorable out of it. I guess it did teach me that I desperately need privacy and personal space? Too bad I already learned that any time I went on vacation and spent too long in a day walking around a mall or theme park.
- perpetualpatzer 8y ago
  Not sure if OP meant it seriously or sarcastically, but the pro-campus housing argument runs: * being collocated with other students provides an academic safety net for the underprepared (it's easier to get your neighbor to explain physics at 10p than a person on the internet who's in your online class/ at your training center) * it provides peer pressure for the undermotivated... its harder to say "this workload is unreasonable, I'm not going to do it" when you see your roommate and all your neighbors slogging through it * proximity forces social interaction, which builds social skills in those who wouldn't have sought them out * it's great fun. Easy to achieve critical mass for parties or other recreational activities. These events in turn build friendships an a valuable network after college.

kypro 8y ago

> but for the love of God let's give the 20 year Olds dorms still cuz that's an experience we all need to have. Coed. If this is true could you explain what I missed out on?

ZeroFries 8y ago
Depends on the type of person you are. I didn't like them much, but lots of people had fun and formed great memories and friendships.
- kypro 8y ago
  Why should tax payers be paying for, "people having fun"? I mean people have fun, form memories and make friendships on holidays too.
  - qntty 8y ago
    I think the point is that we should preserve the tradition of young people living in large houses together even if fewer people end up going to college. Tax payers don't necessarily have to pay for it. BTW, if you spent time living in a city near other young people, you probably didn't miss out on much by not living in a dorm. Some people really thrive in that environment, but personally I prefer the apartment-style living in an area with a lot of young people (college campus or city with young people) that I transitioned to after freshman year.
- zanny 8y ago
  The kind of people who like living in dorms should then live in dorms (many reproduce dorm-like conditions after school anyway by sharing a house with other tenants) and the people who don't would rather not be compelled at a societal level to do it "because its so much fun for some of us". I had a year of rooming in college with a perfectly fine guy but I wouldn't ever want to do that ever again and got nothing particularly memorable out of it. I guess it did teach me that I desperately need privacy and personal space? Too bad I already learned that any time I went on vacation and spent too long in a day walking around a mall or theme park.
perpetualpatzer 8y ago
Not sure if OP meant it seriously or sarcastically, but the pro-campus housing argument runs: * being collocated with other students provides an academic safety net for the underprepared (it's easier to get your neighbor to explain physics at 10p than a person on the internet who's in your online class/ at your training center) * it provides peer pressure for the undermotivated... its harder to say "this workload is unreasonable, I'm not going to do it" when you see your roommate and all your neighbors slogging through it * proximity forces social interaction, which builds social skills in those who wouldn't have sought them out * it's great fun. Easy to achieve critical mass for parties or other recreational activities. These events in turn build friendships an a valuable network after college.