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that may be true. it may also be that too much cannabis is bad for you. as is too much sugar/food, sport, sitting, sleeping or ... anything.

puranjay 8y ago
Somehow, if you suggest that smoking too much weed is bad for you, you're branded as some sort of puritan who isn't "getting with the times". I have never seen the kind of propaganda for any substance as I have for weed, with almost zero discussion about its harmful effects.
- clb4mf 8y ago
  Yeah well. I've given up on that. If people want to self-inflict schizophrenia and psychosis on themselves who am I to stop them? It's good actually, because it's the young mostly, and we're out of jobs in my country... more jobs for me!
  - dmos62 8y ago
    It's sad that you've grown cynical, but it's nothing to brag about.
    - clb4mf 8y ago
      Cynicism is nothing but a mechanism of self-defence against this evil and degenerate world; I encourage others to become cynics too before they go mad.
      - saiya-jin 8y ago
        Still a rather sad story on your side, sorry to hear that. Don't want to stir up things more but maybe have a smoke and relax a bit, world is just fine ;) On a more serious note, cynicism is one way to fail to cope properly with reality, not something that gets you far and high in life. But hey, more jobs for us positive folks compared to bitter sad cynics!
      - rusk 8y ago
        Cynicism is when this self-defence enters a degenerate state. This kind of negative outlook is an actual precursor to various kinds of psychosis widely studied with causal links established. You should check yourself.
      - pennaMan 8y ago
        The world is evil and degenerate only for your personal definition of those words. Your worldview is the actual defense mechanism.
  - puranjay 8y ago
    I've seen some of my really bright friends get hooked on to it and become slow and lazy (anyone who says weed isn't psychologically addictive is lying), and it's just sad. Not to mention that it is almost always mixed in with a little tobacco which is a smell I can do without.
    - RankingMember 8y ago
      That's their choice though. Are you really going to blame a plant for their becoming slow and lazy versus their decision to use it? Furthermore, I'd just point out that people who seem bright and happy on the outside can actually be suffering on the inside. It's possible they're happier and "brighter" now, just not in the same metric you were measuring them by. (Note: I don't have a horse in this race- I don't use marijuana because I don't like the effects, but I'll be the last person to act like it's some demon plant out to hurt capitalism's productivity.)
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- vanderZwan 8y ago
  > with almost zero discussion about its harmful effects. Where do you live? Because growing up in the Netherlands I can say all the negative side-effects were very clearly explained to us in high school, without stigmatizing it. EDIT: it is a sincere question - obviously the Netherlands is in a kind of special position here. And my experience is from the late 90s, so who knows how things have changed since then too.
  - ddorian43 8y ago
    Do people know about drug induced psychosis there (including weed)? The lightest strain in a coffee-shop was pretty strong.
    - vanderZwan 8y ago
      First, we should keep in mind that I can only speak anecdotally and by extension of that only for people with a higher education. But with that said, yes, we do. I even know someone who had it, and they quit using weed after that. It's kind of treated like the complicated thing that it is: genetics and existing mental and physical health are all risk factors, and as a teenager there is the still-developing brain to consider (just like with alcohol). You basically have to decide for yourself if all of that seems worth it.
  - mywittyname 8y ago
    In the US, marijuana is treated by supporters as some sort of magical panacea. This goes back to the root comment in this thread that people see this issue as very black and white.
- dmos62 8y ago
  I am also interested in where you're from, because that really hasn't been my experience. Talking about baseless propaganda, don't forget that cannabis was deregulated for political reasons (in the U.S., then due to politics again, pretty much the whole world followed), not because of social or scientific ones. So your complaint about positive propaganda without discussion of harmful effects is very ironic.
  - mg794613 8y ago
    "In the US... Pretty much whole world followed" I wonder where you are from. If not from USA, you've been misinformed. If from USA, stop assuming you're the frontrunner of anything please.
    - dmos62 8y ago
      I grew up in the Soviet Bloc. I didn't assume you were from U.S., not sure what gives that impression. I was talking about U.S., because it originated the current drug policy of the Western countries, roughly speaking.
- peteretep 8y ago
  > Somehow, if you suggest that smoking too much weed is bad for you I've never seen this attitude in the wild. In fact, most heavy cannabis users I know express a desire to use less.
- ada1981 8y ago
  I’d argue that anyone using the phrase “getting with the times” isn’t “getting with the times”.
Hattes 8y ago
That is, in fact, why it is called "too much".

puranjay 8y ago

Somehow, if you suggest that smoking too much weed is bad for you, you're branded as some sort of puritan who isn't "getting with the times". I have never seen the kind of propaganda for any substance as I have for weed, with almost zero discussion about its harmful effects.

clb4mf 8y ago
Yeah well. I've given up on that. If people want to self-inflict schizophrenia and psychosis on themselves who am I to stop them? It's good actually, because it's the young mostly, and we're out of jobs in my country... more jobs for me!
- dmos62 8y ago
  It's sad that you've grown cynical, but it's nothing to brag about.
  - clb4mf 8y ago
    Cynicism is nothing but a mechanism of self-defence against this evil and degenerate world; I encourage others to become cynics too before they go mad.
    - saiya-jin 8y ago
      Still a rather sad story on your side, sorry to hear that. Don't want to stir up things more but maybe have a smoke and relax a bit, world is just fine ;) On a more serious note, cynicism is one way to fail to cope properly with reality, not something that gets you far and high in life. But hey, more jobs for us positive folks compared to bitter sad cynics!
    - rusk 8y ago
      Cynicism is when this self-defence enters a degenerate state. This kind of negative outlook is an actual precursor to various kinds of psychosis widely studied with causal links established. You should check yourself.
    - pennaMan 8y ago
      The world is evil and degenerate only for your personal definition of those words. Your worldview is the actual defense mechanism.
- puranjay 8y ago
  I've seen some of my really bright friends get hooked on to it and become slow and lazy (anyone who says weed isn't psychologically addictive is lying), and it's just sad. Not to mention that it is almost always mixed in with a little tobacco which is a smell I can do without.
  - RankingMember 8y ago
    That's their choice though. Are you really going to blame a plant for their becoming slow and lazy versus their decision to use it? Furthermore, I'd just point out that people who seem bright and happy on the outside can actually be suffering on the inside. It's possible they're happier and "brighter" now, just not in the same metric you were measuring them by. (Note: I don't have a horse in this race- I don't use marijuana because I don't like the effects, but I'll be the last person to act like it's some demon plant out to hurt capitalism's productivity.)
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vanderZwan 8y ago
> with almost zero discussion about its harmful effects. Where do you live? Because growing up in the Netherlands I can say all the negative side-effects were very clearly explained to us in high school, without stigmatizing it. EDIT: it is a sincere question - obviously the Netherlands is in a kind of special position here. And my experience is from the late 90s, so who knows how things have changed since then too.
- ddorian43 8y ago
  Do people know about drug induced psychosis there (including weed)? The lightest strain in a coffee-shop was pretty strong.
  - vanderZwan 8y ago
    First, we should keep in mind that I can only speak anecdotally and by extension of that only for people with a higher education. But with that said, yes, we do. I even know someone who had it, and they quit using weed after that. It's kind of treated like the complicated thing that it is: genetics and existing mental and physical health are all risk factors, and as a teenager there is the still-developing brain to consider (just like with alcohol). You basically have to decide for yourself if all of that seems worth it.
- mywittyname 8y ago
  In the US, marijuana is treated by supporters as some sort of magical panacea. This goes back to the root comment in this thread that people see this issue as very black and white.
dmos62 8y ago
I am also interested in where you're from, because that really hasn't been my experience. Talking about baseless propaganda, don't forget that cannabis was deregulated for political reasons (in the U.S., then due to politics again, pretty much the whole world followed), not because of social or scientific ones. So your complaint about positive propaganda without discussion of harmful effects is very ironic.
- mg794613 8y ago
  "In the US... Pretty much whole world followed" I wonder where you are from. If not from USA, you've been misinformed. If from USA, stop assuming you're the frontrunner of anything please.
  - dmos62 8y ago
    I grew up in the Soviet Bloc. I didn't assume you were from U.S., not sure what gives that impression. I was talking about U.S., because it originated the current drug policy of the Western countries, roughly speaking.
peteretep 8y ago
> Somehow, if you suggest that smoking too much weed is bad for you I've never seen this attitude in the wild. In fact, most heavy cannabis users I know express a desire to use less.
ada1981 8y ago
I’d argue that anyone using the phrase “getting with the times” isn’t “getting with the times”.

Hattes 8y ago

That is, in fact, why it is called "too much".