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Zelda was simply a means for Nintendo to sell Nintendo Magazine subscriptions. They had to have made a killing on subscriptions, and they were absolutely requi

Zelda was simply a means for Nintendo to sell Nintendo Magazine subscriptions. They had to have made a killing on subscriptions, and they were absolutely required for solving games like Zelda. For example, you have to place a bomb in this one obscure location without any in-game clues as to said location. Or burn a tree. Here's the connection to your post. I think a human and a computer have about the same chance of solving Zelda. At least a computer could be programmed to drop bombs in every rock wall in the game. For a human, that would be too brain-numbing hard.

feanaro 8y ago
You definitely do not need external hints to solve Zelda games. I've finished many Zelda titles without ever getting any hints. I've even finished A Link to the Past in German by using a dictionary to translate dialogue. Before that, I had not known a word of German.
- korla 8y ago
  He is talking specifically about Legend of Zelda, or Zelda for short, the first game in the series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_gam...
  - feanaro 8y ago
    Fair enough. The tree burning should had given me the hint. That said, I did finish the original LOZ without hints too.
chongli 8y ago
At least a computer could be programmed to drop bombs in every rock wall in the game. For a human, that would be too brain-numbing hard. Programming the computer to drop bombs everywhere is giving it way too much foreknowledge. I'm envisioning a computer agent not even knowing what a bomb is. Having to figure out how to beat Zelda without any context for the shapes and colours on the screen, let alone what bush to burn to find level 8 or where to play the recorder to open level 7. This would be a test of general intelligence so I have no problem giving the agent access to the Internet. If it can figure out how to find an FAQ for Zelda and make sense of that information well enough to win the game then more power to it! That's much harder to achieve than building a bot with all of the rules of Zelda pre-programmed in.

feanaro 8y ago

You definitely do not need external hints to solve Zelda games. I've finished many Zelda titles without ever getting any hints. I've even finished A Link to the Past in German by using a dictionary to translate dialogue. Before that, I had not known a word of German.

korla 8y ago
He is talking specifically about Legend of Zelda, or Zelda for short, the first game in the series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_gam...
- feanaro 8y ago
  Fair enough. The tree burning should had given me the hint. That said, I did finish the original LOZ without hints too.

chongli 8y ago

At least a computer could be programmed to drop bombs in every rock wall in the game. For a human, that would be too brain-numbing hard. Programming the computer to drop bombs everywhere is giving it way too much foreknowledge. I'm envisioning a computer agent not even knowing what a bomb is. Having to figure out how to beat Zelda without any context for the shapes and colours on the screen, let alone what bush to burn to find level 8 or where to play the recorder to open level 7. This would be a test of general intelligence so I have no problem giving the agent access to the Internet. If it can figure out how to find an FAQ for Zelda and make sense of that information well enough to win the game then more power to it! That's much harder to achieve than building a bot with all of the rules of Zelda pre-programmed in.