Also, how did the off-duty pilot figure it out if they are nothing alike? My assumption is that the jupmseat guy took a very generous interpretation of the ch

Also, how did the off-duty pilot figure it out if they are nothing alike? My assumption is that the jupmseat guy took a very generous interpretation of the checklist. But there may have been more panic about the trim on the earlier flight. If you compare trim inputs on flight 610 to the previous flight, the pilots on the earlier flight were making much shorter, more rapid inputs than the pilots on flight 610. The plane also pitched down far more dramatically than on flight 610. The graphs for flight 610 seem to indicate that the pilots thought they had the trim situation under control (and they did right up until they didn't). https://reports.aviation-safety.net/2018/20181029-0_B38M_PK-LQP_PRELIMINARY.pdf https://reports.aviation-safety.net/2018/20181029-0_B38M_PK-...